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    I read that it will break every password with ease. No firewalls will resist it. It also is fabulous in facial recognition and tabbing where citizens are. Privacy is weakening but with 5G it will be gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    5g is a directed energy weapon. change my mind.
    What makes it a weapon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    I read that it will break every password with ease. No firewalls will resist it. It also is fabulous in facial recognition and tabbing where citizens are. Privacy is weakening but with 5G it will be gone.
    5G is a radio system, dumbass. It will not circumvent firewalls any more than any other radio. It does not do facial recognition. It keeps tabs on cell clients, not people, same as current cellular technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    5G is a radio system, dumbass. It will not circumvent firewalls any more than any other radio. It does not do facial recognition. It keeps tabs on cell clients, not people, same as current cellular technology.
    Thousands of studies link low-level wireless radio frequency radiation exposures to a long list of adverse biological effects, including:

    DNA single and double strand breaks
    oxidative damage
    disruption of cell metabolism
    increased blood brain barrier permeability
    melatonin reduction
    disruption to brain glucose metabolism
    generation of stress proteins
    Let’s not also forget that in 2011 the World Health Organization (WHO) classified radio frequency radiation as a possible 2B carcinogen.

    More recently the $25 million National Toxicology Program concluded that radio frequency radiation of the type currently used by cell phones can cause cancer.

    But where does 5G fit into all this? Given that 5G is set to utilize frequencies above and below existing frequency bands 5G sits in the middle of all this. But the tendency (it varies from country to country) is for 5G to utilize the higher frequency bands. Which brings it’s own particular concerns. Here is my review of the studies done to date – 11 reasons to be concerned about 5G radiation.

    #1 – A Denser Soup of Electrosmog
    We’re going to be bombarded by really high frequencies at low, short-range intensities creating a yet more complicated denser soup of electrosmog – as this diagram shows.


    Source: Latest on 5G Spectrum – EMFields Ltd.
    To work with the higher range MMW in 5G, the antennas required are smaller. Some experts are talking about as small as 3mm by 3mm. The low intensity is for efficiency and to deal with signal disruption from natural and man-made obstacles.

    #2 – Effects on the Skin
    The biggest concern is how these new wavelengths will affect the skin. The human body has between two million to four million sweat ducts. Dr. Ben-Ishai of Hebrew University, Israel explains that our sweat ducts act like “an array of helical antennas when exposed to these wavelengths,” meaning that we become more conductive. A recent New York study which experimented with 60GHz waves stated that “the analyses of penetration depth show that more than 90% of the transmitted power is absorbed in the epidermis and dermis layer.”

    The effects of MMWs as studied by Dr. Yael Stein of Hebrew University is said to also cause humans physical pain as our nociceptors flare up in recognition of the wave as a damaging stimuli. So we’re looking at possibilities of many skin diseases and cancer as well as physical pain to our skin.

    #3 – Effects on the Eyes
    A 1994 study found that low level millimeter microwave radiation produced lens opacity in rats, which is linked to the production of cataracts.

    An experiment conducted by the Medical Research Institute of Kanazawa Medical University found that 60GHz “millimeter-wave antennas can cause thermal injuries of varying types of levels. The thermal effects induced by millimeterwaves can apparently penetrate below the surface of the eye.”

    A 2003 Chinese study has also found damage to the lens epithelial cells of rabbits after 8 hours of exposure to microwave radiation and a 2009 study conducted by the College of Physicians and Surgeons in Pakistan conclude that EMFs emitted by a mobile phone cause derangement of chicken embryo retinal differentiation.

    #4 – Effects On The Heart
    A 1992 Russian study found that frequencies in the range 53-78GHz (that which 5G proposes to use) impacted the heart rate variability (an indicator of stress) in rats. Another Russian study on frogs who’s skin was exposed to MMWs found heart rate changes (arrhythmias).

    #5 – Immune System Effects
    A 2002 Russian study examined the effects of 42HGz microwave radiation exposure on the blood of healthy mice. It was concluded that “the whole-body exposure of healthy mice to low-intensity EHF EMR has a profound effect on the indices of nonspecific immunity”.

    #6 – Effects on Cell Growth Rates
    A 2016 Armenian study observed MMWs at low intensity, mirroring the future environment brought about by 5G. Their study conducted on E-coli and other bacteria stated that the waves had depressed their growth as well as “changing properties and activity” of the cells. The concern is that it would do the same to human cells.

    #7 – Effects on Bacteria Resistance
    The very same Armenian study also suggested that MMWs effects are mainly on water, cell plasma membrane and genome too. They had found that MMW’s interaction with bacteria altered their sensitivity to “different biologically active chemicals, including antibiotics.” More specifically, the combination of MMW and antibiotics showed that it may be leading to antibiotic resistance in bacteria.

    This groundbreaking finding could have a magnum effect on the health of human beings as the bandwidth is rolled out nationwide. The concern is that we develop a lower resistance to bacteria as our cells become more vulnerable – and we become more vulnerable.

    #8 – Effects on Plant Health
    One of the features of 5G is that the MMW is particularly susceptible to being absorbed by plants and rain. Humans and animals alike consume plants as a food source. The effects MMW has on plants could leave us with food that’s not safe to consume.

    Think GMOs on steroids. The water that falls from the sky onto these plants will also be irradiated. A 2010 study on aspen seedlings showed that the exposure to radio frequencies led to the leaves showing necrosis symptoms.

    5g radiation effect on plants
    Source: https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijfr/2010/83627
    Another Armenian study found that MMWs of low intensity “invoke(s) peroxidase isoenzyme spectrum changes of wheat shoots.” Peroxidase is a stress protein existing in plants. Indications are that 5G will be particularly harmful to plants – perhaps more so than to humans.

    #9 – Effects on the Atmosphere and Depletion of Fossil Fuels
    Implementation of the 5G global wireless network requires the launching of rockets to deploy satellites to emit 5G radiation. These satellites have a short lifespan which would require a lot more deployment than what we’re currently seeing. A new type of hydrocarbon rocket engine expected to power a fleet of suborbital rockets would emit black carbon which “could cause potentially significant changes in the global atmospheric circulation and distributions of ozone and temperature” according to a 2010 Californian study. Solid state rocket exhaust contains chlorine which also destroys the ozone.

    The effects on the ozone are thought to be worse than current day CFC exposure.

    Google’s Project Loon is said to bring Internet to rural and hard-to-access areas by using helium balloons. But these balloons only have a 10-month lifespan. We’re looking at a lot of helium being used here, more than what we can possibly have on Earth?

    #10 – Disruption of the Natural Ecosystem
    Since the year 2000, there have been reports of birds abandoning their nests as well as health issues like “plumage deterioration, locomotion problems, reduced survivorship and death,” says researcher Alfonso Balmori. Bird species that are affected by these low levels, non-ionizing microwave radiation are the House Sparrows, Rock Doves, White Storks, Collared Doves and Magpies, among others.

    But it’s not just the birds. The declining bee population is also said to be linked to this non-ionizing EMF radiation. It reduces the egg-laying abilities of the queen leading to a decline in colony strength.

    A study conducted by Chennai’s Loyola College in 2012 concluded that out of 919 research studies carried out on birds, plants, bees and other animals and humans, 593 of them showed impacts from RF-EMF radiations. 5G will be adding to the effects of this electrosmog.

    #11 – Most 5G Radiation Studies Mis-Leading
    5G will use pulsed millimeter waves to carry information. But as Dr. Joel Moskowitz points out, most 5G studies are misleading because they do not pulse the waves. This is important because research on microwaves already tells us how pulsed waves have more profound biological effects on our body compared to non-pulsed waves. Previous studies, for instance, show how pulse rates of the frequencies led to gene toxicity and DNA strand breaks.

    5G Radiation Already Used In Crowd Control
    It might sound difficult to believe but the 5G frequencies which will soon be blanketing our neighborhoods have been under development for a number of years by defense agencies, including the U.S., Russian and Chinese, as a means of crowd control. The US army uses Millimeter waves in crowd dispersal guns called Active Denial Systems. Dr. Ben-Ishai explains, “if you are unlucky enough to be standing there when it hits you, you will feel like your body is on fire.”

    I have also published an extensive article which answers the question — is 5G dangerous?

    5G Live Testing Already Begun
    AT&T have announced the availability of their 5G Evolution in Austin, Texas. 5G Evolution allows Samsung S8 and S8 + users access to faster speeds. This is part of AT&T’s plan to lay the 5G foundation while the standards are being finalized. AT&T has eyes on 19 other metropolitan areas such as Chicago, Los Angeles, Boston, Atlanta, San Francisco and so on. With Indianapolis to follow.

    Charter, the second-largest cable operator in the US, has been approved for an experimental 28 GHz license in Los Angeles. The outdoor tests will use fixed transmitters with a 1 km or smaller effective radius.

    Qualcomm has already demonstrated a 5G antenna system with about 27 decibel gain. According to ABI Research, is “about 10 to 12 more db than a typical cellular base station antenna.” Not a good sign.

    Many more private sector companies such as HTC, Oracle, Sprint, T-Mobile are playing a role in the developing of testing platforms by contributing time, knowledge or money.

    In the UK the 3.4GHz band has been earmarked for 5G use with contracts awarded to O2, Vodaphone, EE and Three. While the 2.3GHz band, awarded to O2, is likely to be used for 5G too in time.

    Residents of Geneva in Switzerland, reported feeling “bad from one day to the next”, following the installation of 5G antennas in the city. Common symptoms reported were insomnia, tinnitus, headaches.

    5G Call to Action
    Research and pre-testing is rampant by companies who are interested to tap into the lucrative waters of 5G. But few are willing to research its effects on health. The International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection (ICNIRP) guidelines remain essentially unchanged since 1998, not allowing for the recognition of radio frequency microwave radiation and MMWs as harmful unless there is a heating effect. But a few experts are speaking out.

    DariuszLeszczynski from the University of Helsinki and also former member of the International Agency Research on Cancer is one of them. He has brought to attention to ICNIRP intention to classify skin as limbs. Limbs are paid lesser attention to when classifying exposure levels. Research indicates that MMWs affect the skin and the eyes the most. If skin is classified as a limb, this will pave the way for industry giants to introduce even higher exposures and put more people at risk.

    The Global Union Against Radiation Deployment from Space (GUARD) addressed a letter to the FCC in September of 2016, bringing to their attention the harm 5G will inflict. GUARD warned the FCC that 5G violates Article 3 of The UN Declaration of Human Rights which states that “everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.” The document is laden with research, information and global support.

    To learn how to write, call or email the relevant agencies to protest against the 5G deployment go here parentsforsafetechnology.org

    What Experts are Saying About 5G
    Here’s what experts are saying about 5G radiation:

    “There is an urgent need to evaluate 5G health effects now before millions are exposed…. We need to know if 5G increases the risk of skin diseases such as melanoma or other skin cancers”
    -Ron Melnick, the National Institute of Health scientist, retired

    “Along with the 5G there is another thing coming – Internet of Things. If you look at it combined the radiation level is going to increase tremendously and yet the industry is very excited about it…. they project 5G/IoT business to be a $7 trillion business.”
    -Prof. Girish Kumar, Professor at Electrical Engineering Department at IIT Bombay

    “The new 5G wireless technology involves millimeter waves (extremely high frequencies) producing photons of much greater energy than even 4G and WiFi. Allowing this technology to be used without proving its safety is reckless in the extreme, as the millimeter waves are known to have a profound effect on all parts of the human body.”
    -Prof. Trevor Marshall, Director Autoimmunity Research Foundation, California

    “The plans to beam highly penetrative 5G milliwave radiation at us from space must surely be one of the greatest follies ever conceived of by mankind. There will be nowhere safe to live.”
    -Olga Sheean former WHO employee and author of ‘No Safe Place’

    “It would irradiate everyone, including the most vulnerable to harm from radiofrequency radiation: pregnant women, unborn children, young children, teenagers, men of reproductive age, the elderly, the disabled, and the chronically ill.”
    —Ronald Powell, PhD, Letter to FCC on 5G expansion

    How To Protect Yourself From 5G Radiation
    My 3 step approach for dealing with, not just 5G radiation, but EMFs generally can be summarized as:

    Understand your exposures. Understand the different types of EMFs and how they behave – hence the need to read (and share) articles like this one.
    Measure – use an EMF meter to obtain readings and identify hotspots.
    Mitigate your exposure. Which means either eliminate the source, move further away from the source of radiation or shield your body.
    I recommend the same approach with 5G radiation. There is a concern that current EMF meters are not able to measure the frequencies of MMWs. On this point, researcher and electrical engineer Alasdair Philips from Powerwatch states “current RF meters cover the frequency ranges proposed for most 5G use in the next three years”.

    Endless Possibilities For The Future
    5G may bring about a new form of industrial revolution, human connectivity and even a new reality. It offers endless possibilities for the future.

    We do need more research. But already what is clear, as the research I’ve shared here indicates, is that there are real dangers.

    Which is why it even more important to take action to protect yourself and your loved ones. Please share this article with your friends and family.

    Sources include:
    A 5G Wireless Future – Dr. Cindy Russell
    Latest on 5G Spectrum – EMFields Solutions Ltd
    IJMTER ISSN (online) 2349 – 9745 Evolution of Mobile Generation Technology: 1G to 5G and Review of Upcoming Wireless Technology 5G by Lopa J. Vora
    https://5g.co.uk/news/5g-spectrum-auction-results/4336/
    https://www.radiomagonline.com/trend...8-ghz-spectrum
    ehtrust.org/internet-things-poses-human-health-risks-scientists-question-safety-untested-5g-technology-international-conference

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    girflush said,

    This is terrible. These networks are just basically being forced on people without thier knowledge or consent. It’s completely unacceptable but what can be done? And the telecom industry isn’t even aware of the adverse affects themselves. There isn’t any conspiracy going on it’s just what’s always gone on if you look at history – pure ignorance, stupidity, and general human folly. I got a meter, just ordered a grounding half sheet. Next up is a bed canopy because this 5g stuff is madness.


    Anna said,

    There seem to be only 2 choices for us: 1) somehow, acquire superhuman powers that make us invincible to this ever-mushrooming invisible war on our bodies, with very visible consequences 2) form contiguous communities where we can live in peace.


    steve said,

    What happened to Li-Fi?
    It sounded like ti would be less harmful


    calle said,

    Well folks we need to form groups.
    Protest, educate and scream.

    Our only chance is to plant tons of trees, and run the sprinklers all the time.
    But if it kills plant and changes water structure we are doomed.

    So how can we start screaming.

    Can we contact our senators? Or are they already paid off?

    Gurrrr!!


    Helen said,

    According to Popular Science, LiFi will be available in about 4 years. One of the lead researchers, Dr. Harald Haas, said LiFi has much more capacity, can’t be hacked, and is up to 100 times faster than WiFi. AND, it doesn’t affect living cells at all.

    This big push for 5G is the wireless industry’s last gasp for as much profit as possible before they’re obsolete. In the meantime, they don’t care how many people are harmed.

    See Dr. Haas’s TED talk for more info on LiFi. Then shield yourself as much as possible, and wait for the LiFi lightbulbs, which will be able to screw into any socket and provide connection to the Internet.

    Good luck to everyone!


    liz said,

    downgrade your phone or stop using one. Give your child brain cells as a present instead. Put your intention where your mouth is now. Actions speak louder than words.


    Peter said,

    One more information source: http://whatis5g.info/
    Uncredited, so it’s not evident who produces/maintains/writes it, but there is a lot of factual information as well as some, predominantly precautionary, commentary. Much of it echoing this comprehensive article.
    For the proponents of lifi – has any safety testing been done on it? Can we assume that it is harmless? (Prof Olle Johansson doesn’t think so). Remember when the only harmful effect of microwaves was to heat things? Those who fail to learn the lessons of history……..
    Next week’s news (on the forum) will feature articles on 5g and IoT, some of which are expressing at least a degree of scepticism.


    Dr. Leendert Vriens said,

    In the 1998 ICNIRP Guidelines one can find upper limits for allowable radiation intensities of 10 W/m2 and field strengths of 61 V/m, in the frequency ranges from 10 to 300 and 2 to 300 GHz, respectively. In the guidelines for smartphones it can be found that these must be kept at distances of 5, 10 or 15 mm from our body in order not to exceed these upper limits. In it is said (illustrated by measurements) that the upper limits are indeed violated when the smartphone is close to our body. At the higher 5G frequencies, say 30 GHz, the penetration depth of the radiation in our body is much less than the penetration depth at the 2G-4G GHz frequencies, so the heating in the near skin part of our body will become much higher and it will be more dangerous to keep a 5G higher-frequency smartphone close to our body, provided the same radiation intensities will be used at these higher frequencies. With respect to that I have a question: can anything be said about the required radiation intensities for 5G in comparison with those for 4G (in order to get good transmission)?


    Mary Anne Tierney said,

    LLoyd, What a great service to all of us you have done to compile this complicated data. I am using it this week to help our NC legislators to understand this issue as they vote on giving the industry right-of-way for installing the small cells.

    How can I access all your sources?
    gratefully, Mary Anne


    ellie said,

    Lloyd, Thank YOU, again, for your site, and all the great information you and your guests provide. I’d like to share a radio interview from Lost Arts Radio with my friend, Lena Pu. She’s a devoted mom, an educated, energetic activist, and an inspiration.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/lostart...-guest-lena-pu

    As Peter mentioned above, I highly recommend spending time exploring this website about 5G and The Internet of Things. It is a vast source of information: http://whatis5g.info/

    Share this info with your friends and family and neighbors and schools and salons and health clubs and coffee shop owners and churches. The more people that know the truth, the more power we, the people, have. And share from a hard-wired, ethernet device. Walk the talk. Be the change.

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    No, we are simply not made of magnetic stuff. RF energy goes right through us with no effects whatsoever, unless they are certain frequencies that resonate with water molecules.

    It has no relation to smog. It has effect on the skin, eyes, immune system, cells, or the heart. 5G frequencies are nowhere near the resonant frequencies of water.
    It does not cause nuclear radiation. It does not affect plants. It does not affect the atmosphere. It does not cause fossils to burn or prevent them from burning. We don't use fossils for fuel. Fossils don't burn.

    It is not possible to destroy the ozone layer even if we wanted to. Rocket fuels using ammonium perchlorate as the oxidizer produce ammonium chloride, carbon dioxide and water as exhaust. No free chlorine at all. Ammonium chloride does not react with ozone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    No, we are simply not made of magnetic stuff. RF energy goes right through us with no effects whatsoever, unless they are certain frequencies that resonate with water molecules.

    It has no relation to smog. It has effect on the skin, eyes, immune system, cells, or the heart. 5G frequencies are nowhere near the resonant frequencies of water.
    It does not cause nuclear radiation. It does not affect plants. It does not affect the atmosphere. It does not cause fossils to burn or prevent them from burning. We don't use fossils for fuel. Fossils don't burn.

    It is not possible to destroy the ozone layer even if we wanted to. Rocket fuels using ammonium perchlorate as the oxidizer produce ammonium chloride and water as exhaust. No free chlorine at all. Ammonium chloride does not react with ozone.
    wrong. but stay stupid, my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    5G is a radio system, dumbass. It will not circumvent firewalls any more than any other radio. It does not do facial recognition. It keeps tabs on cell clients, not people, same as current cellular technology.
    I wonder why anyone responds to your utterly igorant and childishly rude posts. https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/o...-tech-with-5g/

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    wrong. but stay stupid, my friend.
    Nah. I don't live in fear. I'll happily make use of 5G technology while you live in abject fear. I am a radio engineer, among other things, (I am also a chemist) and I know what these radios can and cannot do. You're just bringing up foil hat stuff.

    Studies are not a proof. You are just denying radio engineering and chemistry.

    If you choose to live in fear, that's YOUR problem. I cannot stop that. I can only counsel you to come out of your unfounded fears and not worry about radios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Nah. I don't live in fear. I'll happily make use of 5G technology while you live in abject fear. I am a radio engineer, among other things, (I am also a chemist) and I know what these radios can and cannot do. You're just bringing up foil hat stuff.

    Studies are not a proof. You are just denying radio engineering and chemistry.

    If you choose to live in fear, that's YOUR problem. I cannot stop that. I can only counsel you to come out of your unfounded fears and not worry about radios.
    I don't live in fear. im ready to die at any moment. are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    I wonder why anyone responds to your utterly igorant and childishly rude posts. https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/o...-tech-with-5g/
    False authority fallacy. Facial recognition does not require 5G.
    It is already in place in several casinos and some government buildings. It is already being used with some street mounted systems in some cities.

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    "studies are not proof. hi, im dumb"

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    I don't live in fear. im ready to die at any moment. are you?
    Your post says otherwise. Which is it, dude?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Your post says otherwise. Which is it, dude?
    im just relaying research and facts, dude. I know others don't share my existential nonchalance. everything I do, I do for the people.

    I'm pretty christlike. r/humblebrag

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    im just relaying research and facts, dude. I know others don't share my existential nonchalance. everything I do, I do for the people.

    I'm pretty christlike. r/humblebrag
    Research is not a proof. Any idiot can 'research'. Not a fact. An argument. Learn what 'fact' means. A 'fact' is not a Universal Truth'.

    Bringing up irrelevant claims does not change that your post indicates you are living in fear. Your religion has nothing to do with it. I really don't care what your religion is, and it makes not difference to your fears about 5G.

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