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    Dionysus

    Though Zeus begged her not to ask this, she persisted and he agreed. Therefore, he came to her wreathed in bolts of lightning; mortals, however, could not look upon an undisguised god without dying, and she perished in the ensuing blaze. Zeus rescued the unborn Dionysus by sewing him into his thigh. A few months later, Dionysus was born on Mount Pramnos in the island of Ikaria, where Zeus went to release the now-fully-grown baby from his thigh. In this version, Dionysus is borne by two "mothers" (Semele and Zeus) before his birth, hence the epithet dimētōr (of two mothers) associated with his being "twice-born".
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    gosh, just like the nativity.....poor uninformed guano....

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    Now that humanity has access to to history and sociology at their fingertips , truth is readily available to matters of the roots of belief systems
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    You are a fool. People have been trying to discredit the Bible for 2000 years. No one has succeeded. In fact, many parts of Scripture once thought to be myths have been proven true through archeology. Not once. Not twice. Not three times, but many times. Over and over again, Scripture has been proven to be accurate in everything it says. They even found what's left of Sodom and Gamorrah. And guess what? They were destroyed by fire and brimstone. Just like the Bible said.

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    “If we have to have a choice between being dead and pitied, and being alive with a bad image, we’d rather be alive and have the bad image.”

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    Several books in Christian Bibles were demonstrably not written by their alleged authors. Many of these books are now designated the “Pseudepigrapha” or “Apocrypha.” The term pseudepigrapha means generally “falsely written,” and the term apocrypha means “secret” or, more suspiciously, “hidden.” How did such seemingly spurious writings become part of the biblical canon? In this lecture, Prof. Wright will explain how these books came into being and how they became canonical. This fresh look at these “false,” “secret,” or “hidden” books will reveal the great diversity that existed in earliest Judaism and Christianity.

    J. Edward Wright is Professor of Hebrew Bible and Early Judaism and has served as the Director of the Arizona Center for Judaic Studies at The University of Arizona since 2000. Wright received his Ph.D. from Brandeis University and did additional graduate study at The Hebrew University of Jerusalem and the Harvard Divinity School.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milomason View Post
    That's the most honest answer I could possibly give you!
    There are some who would instantly understand what I'm saying.
    But to make it easy,before there was a physical universe with matter.
    There was a pure Spiritual universe with just Spirits,we call Angels.
    Until Lucifer attempted to overthrow
    YHWH,causing "The Big Bang",creating the physical universe,and the third of the Angels who backed him,became what we call fallen Angels or Demons.
    Also at that moment of "The Big Bang",the ArchAngel Michael was created.
    So ,do I believe there are Angels?
    Absolutely!
    Who told you all that garbage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    Still having a problem with cultures, now a religion, that's not your own, bigot?

    The Gospels are eyewitness reports. If they agreed 100%, then they would be suspect.
    Joseph Smith had eyewitness accounts, too. So, you must believe in his golden tablets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    Krishna.....born of a virgin just like his seven older brothers........guano is getting boring.....

    http://bib.irr.org/krishna-and-chris...us-and-krishna
    Wow! ANOTHER virgin birth!

    Go figure....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    You are a fool. People have been trying to discredit the Bible for 2000 years. No one has succeeded. In fact, many parts of Scripture once thought to be myths have been proven true through archeology. Not once. Not twice. Not three times, but many times. Over and over again, Scripture has been proven to be accurate in everything it says. They even found what's left of Sodom and Gamorrah. And guess what? They were destroyed by fire and brimstone. Just like the Bible said.
    People have been trying to discredit the Bible for more than 2000 years...

    ...and most have succeeded.

    But stick with your mythology. It helps get you past the graveyard...although whistling a happy tune works also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milomason View Post
    That's the most honest answer I could possibly give you!
    There are some who would instantly understand what I'm saying.
    But to make it easy,before there was a physical universe with matter.
    There was a pure Spiritual universe with just Spirits,we call Angels.
    Until Lucifer attempted to overthrow
    YHWH,causing "The Big Bang",creating the physical universe,and the third of the Angels who backed him,became what we call fallen Angels or Demons.
    Also at that moment of "The Big Bang",the ArchAngel Michael was created.
    So ,do I believe there are Angels?
    Absolutely!
    So...your blind guess is that the Bible is the word of a god...

    ...and a further blind guess is that "angels" exist.

    Why do you word that as, "I believe?"

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    Paul reported that around 37CE, he had a revelation from God on the road to Damascus. According to his writings, he saw a blinding light, fell to the ground unconscious, heard voices, and became temporarily blinded. During this episode, Jesus appeared to him and spoke to him.

    Some say his description is consistent with an epileptic seizure, (Epilepsy, at that time, was thought to indicate possession by a demon—perhaps Paul called his seizure a revelation to avoid the stigma of epilepsy.) Others suggest that Paul had a psychotic episode. It is also possible that Paul was affected by a fireball or meteor passing through the sky which accounts for the blinding light, being knocked to the ground, and temporary blindness.

    The first of Paul’s Epistles was written fourteen years later around 52CE. (We have no earlier writings from him and know nothing about what he did for those 14 years.) Paul said that he met Peter and James, the brother of Jesus. However, he reports that he made no attempt to meet and talk with them or any of the other disciples. Just the opposite—there appears to have been a rift between Paul and the people who could have known Jesus. I think Paul and the early Christians had very different opinions about who Jesus was and what he taught.

    Paul is quite insistent that he bases his ideas about Christ on his revelation and not upon any eyewitness account told to him.



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    Arguing about religion is pointless.

    People are going to believe what they believe.
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    C'MON MAN!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Arguing about religion is pointless.

    People are going to believe what they believe.
    When mental illnesses and delusions are used to drive national policy it is very pertinent
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    When mental illnesses and delusions are used to drive national policy it is very pertinent
    True, but that's a slightly different argument.

    Just arguing about religion for the sake of argument or trying to convince the other guy your beliefs are right and theirs are wrong is a waste of time.

    All you do is cause them to dig in their heels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    True, but that's a slightly different argument.

    Just arguing about religion for the sake of argument or trying to convince the other guy your beliefs are right and theirs are wrong is a waste of time.

    All you do is cause them to dig in their heels.
    All the more so, because "beliefs" in a religious context...are nothing but blind guesses about the unknown.

    When a person says, "I believe there is a GOD"...that person is actually saying, "It is my blind guess that a GOD EXISTS."

    By the same token, a person who says, "I believe there are no gods...they are myths"...is actually saying, "It is my blind guess that no gods exist...that the notion of gods (or a GOD) IS A MYTH.

    If everyone would get away from making blind guesses about THAT aspect of the REALITY of existence, the world would be a much nicer place.

    Short of that...if we could all get away from calling our blind guesses on these matters "beliefs"...that would go a long way toward helping make the world a better place.

    Nothing wrong with blind guesses.
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