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    Unhappy addiction is a medical problem

    people are really down on addicts, but the medical profession says that addiction is a disease

    we know that alcohol and tobacco addictions are major problems but so are addictions to various 'recreational' drugs

    would you advocate putting people with the flu or diabetes in jail

    an article today -

    WASHINGTON (April 2) - Scientists say they have pinpointed a genetic link that makes people more likely to get hooked on tobacco, causing them to smoke more cigarettes, making it harder to quit, and leading more often to deadly lung cancer.


    what other genetic problems lead to addiction and how long before they are discovered


    i had a bout of walking pneumonia a few years ago and it added pleurisy to the problems the day i was admitted to the hospital

    if you have never had pleurisy, trust me it feels like you are being cut in half

    they gave me a strong pain medication and i could feel the medication moving through my system eliminating the pain - that was the day that i truly understood addiction - it scared me more than anything else in my life

    i knew that if i was in enough pain that i would do anything to stop it

    there is emotional, mental and physical pain - what would you do to ease severe pain
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    The human mind sets itself up for addiction. It underestimates the difficulty of breaking it almost all the time. People who condemn others as weak for having addiction fall to it just as easily. There's no elitism to be had here, it's a human problem. Jail isn't the answer, and in any case, it's more expensive than treatment.
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    Just hanging around, waiting for one of the "personal responsibility" nutters to start spraying.
    Dumbarse and learning to live with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diuretic View Post
    Just hanging around, waiting for one of the "personal responsibility" nutters to start spraying.
    Doesn't an addiction to a drug require that one be stupid enough to first try it in the first place? I don't want to lock anyone up, but I don't want to have to spend any money on willfully ignorant people either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    Doesn't an addiction to a drug require that one be stupid enough to first try it in the first place? I don't want to lock anyone up, but I don't want to have to spend any money on willfully ignorant people either.
    This statement is stupid. It doesn't require stupidity for someone to try drugs, but it does require idiocy for someone to think so.

    Idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    Doesn't an addiction to a drug require that one be stupid enough to first try it in the first place? I don't want to lock anyone up, but I don't want to have to spend any money on willfully ignorant people either.
    That's true, but you'd have to hope that a strong education message would help people make decisions about what substances they use and how they use them. And perhaps - I admit this is a long shot - they could be educated about reliance on substances and how addiction happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diuretic View Post
    That's true, but you'd have to hope that a strong education message would help people make decisions about what substances they use and how they use them. And perhaps - I admit this is a long shot - they could be educated about reliance on substances and how addiction happens.
    Doesn't work at all. I am a graduate of the DARE program, and have even contributed money to it, but its been a total failure except in certain settings...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    This statement is stupid. It doesn't require stupidity for someone to try drugs, but it does require idiocy for someone to think so.

    Idiot.
    To use illicit drugs is comepletely stupid, and willfully so, which is inexcusable. I consider myself stupid, but I didn't choose to be inferior. I have always envied people with natural tallent who piss it away, like those math geniouses who skip class and flunk out. If drugs were legal, we'd see the true toll on the idiots who use them. And we could save money by not fighting to "protect them from themselves."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    Doesn't work at all. I am a graduate of the DARE program, and have even contributed money to it, but its been a total failure except in certain settings...
    I think the DARE programme is a failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    To use illicit drugs is comepletely stupid, and willfully so, which is inexcusable. I consider myself stupid, but I didn't choose to be inferior. I have always envied people with natural tallent who piss it away, like those math geniouses who skip class and flunk out. If drugs were legal, we'd see the true toll on the idiots who use them. And we could save money by not fighting to "protect them from themselves."
    To use consciousness-altering substances is entirely human. We do that stuff.

    It's not going to go away because someone says make it go away.

    It's not going to go away because someone says, "don't".

    Now, having got that out of the way, what should we do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    To use illicit drugs is comepletely stupid, and willfully so, which is inexcusable. I consider myself stupid, but I didn't choose to be inferior. I have always envied people with natural tallent who piss it away, like those math geniouses who skip class and flunk out. If drugs were legal, we'd see the true toll on the idiots who use them. And we could save money by not fighting to "protect them from themselves."
    You're not stupid, you wouldn't bother with this forum if you were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    Doesn't an addiction to a drug require that one be stupid enough to first try it in the first place? I don't want to lock anyone up, but I don't want to have to spend any money on willfully ignorant people either.
    3d

    what about people that are prescribed pain killers and get addicted?

    what about people that try a drug and discover that suddenly they cannot do without it (without help that is)

    aside from all of the above, we have a problem that is not going to go away by itself and is maiming and killing people daily
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    Threedee = idiot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    To use illicit drugs is comepletely stupid, and willfully so, which is inexcusable. I consider myself stupid, but I didn't choose to be inferior. I have always envied people with natural tallent who piss it away, like those math geniouses who skip class and flunk out. If drugs were legal, we'd see the true toll on the idiots who use them. And we could save money by not fighting to "protect them from themselves."
    The only correct statement you've made is that you're stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    To use illicit drugs is comepletely stupid, and willfully so, which is inexcusable. I consider myself stupid, but I didn't choose to be inferior. I have always envied people with natural tallent who piss it away, like those math geniouses who skip class and flunk out. If drugs were legal, we'd see the true toll on the idiots who use them. And we could save money by not fighting to "protect them from themselves."
    3d

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