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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    Ya mean like secret meetings in the Oval Office that we find out about from the Russian press? Sharing Israeli intel with Russia without clearing it with Israel? Bombing Syrian/Russian airfields but only after informing the Russians first? SIding with Putin's lies over our own intel?

    Like that?
    Why would we want to bomb, and kill, Russians in Syria when it’s not necessary?

    And you goof balls thought Trump would start WWIII. Please stop voting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    From your link

    According to the report — published by the Director of National Intelligence — the NSA may disseminate a U.S. person’s identity only if doing so meets one of a set of specified reasons under the agency’s guidelines.

    Among those reasons is if the identity was necessary to understand foreign intelligence information or if the communication contained evidence of a crime and was being disseminated to law enforcement authorities.

    The NSA provides the true identity of a masked person only if the official making the request has a legitimate “need to know,” according to the report, and has the appropriate security clearances — and if “the dissemination of the U.S. person’s identity would be consistent with NSA’s minimization procedures.”

    Increased activity by foreign agents with "US persons" would be a cause for increased unmasking...wouldn't it?

    What happened in 2016?

    Oh yea...Russia was engaged in espionage related to a Presidential election
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ens/100026368/
    ► The information is available publicly, meaning "information that a member of the public could obtain on request, by research in public sources, or by casual observation."

    ► "The identity of the United States person is necessary to understand foreign intelligence information or assess its importance, e.g., the identity of a senior official in the executive branch."

    ► The intelligence indicates that the U.S. person may be "an agent of a foreign power."

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nmaskings.html

    Former Obama administration UN ambassador Samantha Power requested the 'unmasking' of Americans named in intelligence reports more than 260 times during her last year in office, according to a new report.

    Power's total his more than one request per workday of 2016 – far exceeding the numbers typical of someone in her position, which in the past have come in the low single digits
    , according to a report by Fox News.

    Unmasking occurs when a government official so-empowered requests the name of an American who appears in an intelligence repot be revealed.

    In Power's case, this activity extended up until shortly before Obama left office, according to the Fox report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    Ya mean like secret meetings in the Oval Office that we find out about from the Russian press? Sharing Israeli intel with Russia without clearing it with Israel? Bombing Syrian/Russian airfields but only after informing the Russians first? SIding with Putin's lies over our own intel?

    Like that?
    jesus.
    we gave Russians notice we were sending cruise missiles against Assad so they would not be in the area and be killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    a 1 page footnote doesn't cut it
    How long should the footnote have been?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seeker View Post
    How long should the footnote have been?
    the steele dossier needed to be more then footnoted -considering the reliance on it for FISA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    So the accusations against Page were in error.

    And I get the idea they knew that all along but needed some justification to surveil the Trump campaign aka ‘going crime fishing’ and since they knew Page had Russian contacts—he was their guy.

    And it was ‘Oops, oh well, guess we were wrong about Page’ after they had used him as a basis to spy on Trump.

    Our problem isn’t with the Russians.
    You can only come to this conclusion, if you ignore the fact that Manafort was also on the radar. Along with Papadopolous, the FBI HAD to wonder why all of these Russian operatives were helping trump with the campaign.


    But do go on lying about the Steele dossier.

    It makes you look so...intelligent.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Why would we want to bomb, and kill, Russians in Syria when it’s not necessary?

    And you goof balls thought Trump would start WWIII. Please stop voting.
    I think the bigger question is, why bomb a vacant airstrip?
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    Manafort was also on the radar
    not germane to FISA application

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    I think the bigger question is, why bomb a vacant airstrip?
    Why not lol? If Vlad gets pissy, oh well.

    I still don’t understand why Trump should have recklessly sent missiles into occupied Russian barracks when the objective was Assad’s chemical weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Why would we want to bomb, and kill, Russians in Syria when it’s not necessary?

    And you goof balls thought Trump would start WWIII. Please stop voting.
    8 wars going, bombings every 12 minutes, arming/supporting ethnic cleansing in Gaza and Yemen, arms dealers to the world. We're doing OK on the warlord front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seeker View Post
    How long should the footnote have been?
    At least long enough to include the fact it was a campaign hit piece paid for Clinton and the DNC?

    What could possibly justify leaving that little tidbit out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    At least long enough to include the fact it was a campaign hit piece paid for Clinton and the DNC?

    What could possibly justify leaving that little tidbit out?
    Really? Clinton initiated the Steele dossier? Can you link us?
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Steele was paid $160,000 to create the Trump dossier for Fusion GPS. The Hillary Clinton presidential campaign and Democratic National Committee financed the work. So the FBI and Justice Department used opposition research from a presidential campaign to launch an investigation into that campaign's political opponent — a likely illegal use of federal government surveillance for political purposes.
    https://www.investors.com/politics/e...-spy-on-trump/

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    MARGARET BRENNAN: This morning the president is again accusing the Justice Department and the FBI of misleading courts and illegally surveilling his campaign. He’s pointing to these documents that were just released about Carter Page who was a campaign associate and has admitted to having advised the Kremlin at one point. You sit on Senate Judiciary. Is the president wrong?

    SEN. GRAHAM: No I think that the whole FISA award process needs to be looked at. The warrant on Carter Page was supported mostly by dossier that came from Steele who is being paid by the Democratic Party to do opposition research and the dossier was collected I think from Russian intelligence services and if you ask the FBI today how much of the dossier on Trump has been verified. Almost none of it.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: But you do say mostly. Not entirely. Therefore was the surveillance justified?

    SEN. GRAHAM: No not at all in my view. If the dossier is the reason you issued the warrant, it was a bunch of garbage. The dossier has proven to be a bunch of garbage.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So the president is correct?

    SEN. GRAHAM: In my view that the warrant, the FISA warrant process needs to be looked at closely about Congress. The main reason they issued the warrant was the dossier prepared by Mr. Steele. They never told the court that he was a paid operative in the Democratic Party. The substance of the dossier to this day is a bunch of garbage.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...n_garbage.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    I'm pretty sure the original FISA warrants came well before the Steele dossier. Before the trump campaign, as I recall.
    Is that right?

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