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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    'Nunes Memo'. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ...

    He's a Partisanshithead little toad. hahahahahahaha ...
    I'm pretty sure the original FISA warrants came well before the Steele dossier. Before the trump campaign, as I recall.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Annata. I've stopped reading you. I'm putting you down as 'Russian Troll'.

    I will now see you from that point of view. I like reading your foreign topic threads.

    But, your internal US topics, ... really suck.
    awesome. who cares?. you should care about FISA abuse. forget politics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesh View Post
    no
    ya there was.

    NSA granted nearly 2K 'unmasking' requests in 2016
    http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...in-2016-report
    The National Security Agency (NSA) in 2016 agreed to almost 2,000 requests from officials within the government to reveal the identities of U.S. persons caught up in foreign surveillance, according to an annual transparency report released on Tuesday.

    In 1,934 instances, the NSA complied with requests from authorized officials to “unmask” names that had been originally blacked out to protect privacy. The report did not reveal the number of requests that were denied.

    That figure is a dramatic increase from 2015, when only 654 were granted. The data was not provided in either the 2015 or 2014 publication — the first year the report was made public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    The controversy about these FISA applications first arose in February when House intelligence committee Chairman Rep. Devin Nunes released a memo claiming that the FBI misled the FISA Court about Christopher Steele, the former British secret agent who compiled the “dossier” on Trump-Russia ties and who was a source of information in the FISA applications on Page. The main complaint in the Nunes memo was that FBI whitewashed Steele—that the FISA applications did not “disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior FBI officials.”

    In response to the Nunes memo, the Democrats on the committee released their own memo. That memo quoted from parts of the FISA applications, including a footnote in which the FBI explained that Steele was hired to “conduct research regarding Candidate #1,” Donald Trump, and Trump’s “ties to Russia,” and that the man who hired him was “likely looking for information that could be used to discredit [Trump’s] campaign.”

    Now we have some additional information in the form of the redacted FISA applications themselves, and the Nunes memo looks even worse. In my earlier post, I observed that the FBI’s disclosures about Steele were contained in a footnote, but argued that this did not detract from their sufficiency ... Now we can see that the footnote disclosing Steele’s possible bias takes up more than a full page in the applications, so there is literally no way the FISA Court could have missed it. The FBI gave the court enough information to evaluate Steele’s credibility.

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-mak...a-applications
    419 FISA page application..a 1 page footnote doesn't cut it ( and just says political -doesn't say paid by Clinton) considering the Steele references..

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    Page was the fall guy. So the FBI could get into the campaign
    Recall Page had JUST HELPED the FBI convict a Russian spy ring!
    Now he was called a foreign agent with no proof of these exchanges sited in FISA.

    To that end, the FISA application draws directly from page 9 of the Steele dossier, claiming that someone "met secretly with Page and that their agenda for the meeting included Divyekin raising a dossier or "kompromat" that the Kremlin possessed on Candidate #2 and the possibility of it being released to Candidate #1's campaign."

    and again Page was never indicted by any of these accusations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    "James Comey" ... the guy that single-handedly came out with an allegation about Hillary, 8 days before the Election, and effectively handed the Presidency to Trump. That guy?
    Wait, I thought Teh Russians handed the election to Hitlery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    Page was the fall guy. So the FBI could get into the campaign
    Recall Page had JUST HELPED the FBI convict a Russian spy ring!
    Now he was called a foreign agent with no proof of these exchanges sited in FISA.

    and again Page was never indicted by any of these accusations.
    So the accusations against Page were in error.

    And I get the idea they knew that all along but needed some justification to surveil the Trump campaign aka ‘going crime fishing’ and since they knew Page had Russian contacts—he was their guy.

    And it was ‘Oops, oh well, guess we were wrong about Page’ after they had used him as a basis to spy on Trump.

    Our problem isn’t with the Russians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    So the accusations against Page were in error.

    And I get the idea they knew that all along but needed some justification to surveil the Trump campaign aka ‘going crime fishing’ and since they knew Page had Russian contacts—he was their guy.

    And it was ‘Oops, oh well, guess we were wrong about Page’ after they had used him as a basis to spy on Trump.

    Our problem isn’t with the Russians.
    of course.
    they kept renewing the FISA that Page was a "Agent Of A Foreign Power" as well -even after the 1st FISA was denied.

    Based on the Steele dossier claimed meeting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    of course.
    they kept renewing the FISA that Page was a "Agent Of A Foreign Power" as well -even after the 1st FISA was denied.

    Based on the Steele dossier claimed meeting!
    What’s remarkable is how the Russia phobes will go on about how Putin is using Trump when practically everything Trump does thwarts Putin. Trump’s words don’t help Putin one bit.

    But there is plenty of evidence our own taxpayer funded IC has been used against a political campaign—staring at them in the face, and they can’t or refuse to see it.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    What’s remarkable is how the Russia phobes will go on about how Putin is using Trump when practically everything Trump does thwarts Putin. Trump’s words don’t help Putin one bit.

    But there is plenty of evidence our own taxpayer funded IC has been used against a political campaign—staring at them in the face, and they can’t or refuse to see it.
    the unmaskings /FISA / and don't forget the EC -which we are STILL looking for

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Hillary cost Hillary the election.
    Yes, but it was the DNC that lost Democrats the election. The DNC elite anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    you should care about FISA abuse. forget politics
    The FISC judges who approved the surveillance of Carter Page were:

    Raymond Dearie (Reagan appointee)
    Anne Conway (George H.W. Bush appointee)
    Rosemary Collyer and Michael Mosman (George W. Bush appointees)

    If there was FISA abuse they were all in on it. Maybe they're 'Deep State', lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Lies, set-ups, false accusations, cover-ups, distractions from the actual collaborators and conspirators...and STILL it's just allegations, not evidence...wasting our dang time and money, on and on.
    Meanwhile, the dishonest media and left rant about Trumps lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    ya there was.

    NSA granted nearly 2K 'unmasking' requests in 2016
    http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...in-2016-report
    The National Security Agency (NSA) in 2016 agreed to almost 2,000 requests from officials within the government to reveal the identities of U.S. persons caught up in foreign surveillance, according to an annual transparency report released on Tuesday.

    In 1,934 instances, the NSA complied with requests from authorized officials to “unmask” names that had been originally blacked out to protect privacy. The report did not reveal the number of requests that were denied.

    That figure is a dramatic increase from 2015, when only 654 were granted. The data was not provided in either the 2015 or 2014 publication — the first year the report was made public.
    From your link

    According to the report — published by the Director of National Intelligence — the NSA may disseminate a U.S. person’s identity only if doing so meets one of a set of specified reasons under the agency’s guidelines.

    Among those reasons is if the identity was necessary to understand foreign intelligence information or if the communication contained evidence of a crime and was being disseminated to law enforcement authorities.

    The NSA provides the true identity of a masked person only if the official making the request has a legitimate “need to know,” according to the report, and has the appropriate security clearances — and if “the dissemination of the U.S. person’s identity would be consistent with NSA’s minimization procedures.”

    Increased activity by foreign agents with "US persons" would be a cause for increased unmasking...wouldn't it?

    What happened in 2016?

    Oh yea...Russia was engaged in espionage related to a Presidential election

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    What’s remarkable is how the Russia phobes will go on about how Putin is using Trump when practically everything Trump does thwarts Putin. Trump’s words don’t help Putin one bit.

    But there is plenty of evidence our own taxpayer funded IC has been used against a political campaign—staring at them in the face, and they can’t or refuse to see it.
    Ya mean like secret meetings in the Oval Office that we find out about from the Russian press? Sharing Israeli intel with Russia without clearing it with Israel? Bombing Syrian/Russian airfields but only after informing the Russians first? SIding with Putin's lies over our own intel?

    Like that?

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