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    Cool Trump vs Obama on Russia, and The Real Truth.

    So, the ridiculous Republican talking point that Trump has been tougher on Putin and Russia than Obama is easily exposed. But they're still repeating it. It's right out of Orwell, 2+2=5.

    So I've been debating some Trumpsters and wanted more ammo on pro Putin actions by Trump, this is the list I have so far. Any more to add to this list?

    Obama:
    -With Hillary killed the Putin-Exon(Tillerson) $500 Billion Oil Deal
    -Obama signs Magnitsky Act exposing and punishing Russian corruption
    -Obama helped get Russia kicked out of the G8
    -Obama imposed actual "real" sanctions against the Russian government
    etc. etc.


    Trump:
    -Named Rex Tillerson his first SoS whose first order of business was to try (unsuccessfully) to revive the $500 Billion Putn oil deal
    -Lobbied for Russia to rejoin the G8
    -Exempted Russia and only Russia from the North Korea shipping embargo giving them a monopoly on shipping the NK.
    -Inexplicably refused to acknowledge Russia meddled in the election in his favor, to this day hasn't been clear or offered a strong rebuke.
    -Trashed NATO exactly how Putin would want.
    -Steel tariffs were structured in a way that benefited Russia greatly.
    -Purged State Department of nearly all experienced Russia experts.
    -Changed 1 and only 1 thing in the GOP platform at the RNC, changed the party's position on aiding Ukraine, specifically removed the party's pledge to provide military support to the opposition.
    -Said the US government is just as bad as Russia when it comes to murder.
    -Named Putin buddy and business associate, Wilbur Ross, as Commerce Secretary.
    -Trump's campaign chairman was essentially on Putin's payroll at the same time he was running the Trump campaign for President.
    -Trump imposed sanctions against individual Russians and companies that no longer existed instead of the Russian government.
    -Trump booted 60 Russian diplomats, but that amounted to a shift change as he allowed 60 to replace them immediately.
    -Held summit with Putin where Trump threw our country at the "strong and powerful" Putin's feet and humiliated our entire intelligence apparatus.
    -Invited Putin to the White House even in the face of all the proven attacks by Putin on the US.
    -etc.
    ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
    Remember ... ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES ... So STFU Bitch

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    What?

    No Denials?
    ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
    Remember ... ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES ... So STFU Bitch

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    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post

    Nothing ... got it ...
    ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
    Remember ... ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES ... So STFU Bitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    What?

    No Denials?
    You seemed to have forgotten a few.

    Obama handed Crimea to Russia.

    Obama admin ordered Stand DOWN regarding Russian hacking. You know... that thing Dems are so 'pissed' about now.

    But you can read more here...

    http://thehill.com/opinion/white-hou...obama-in-eight

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    Yes, Obama didn't go to war with Russia over Crimea -- Trump would have actually sent troops over to stop Putin from taking Crimea -- OR -- Putin would have just told Trump he wanted to take Crimea and Trump would have told us how it was a good idea and no one would complain.

    Obama never ordered a stand down on Russian hacking because he was conspiring with Russia to get Hillary elected -- but God stepped in and stopped their evil plans -- Putin is not evil by the way, just Obama and Hillary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhym3pays View Post
    Yes, Obama didn't go to war with Russia over Crimea -- Trump would have actually sent troops over to stop Putin from taking Crimea -- OR -- Putin would have just told Trump he wanted to take Crimea and Trump would have told us how it was a good idea and no one would complain.

    Obama never ordered a stand down on Russian hacking because he was conspiring with Russia to get Hillary elected -- but God stepped in and stopped their evil plans -- Putin is not evil by the way, just Obama and Hillary.

    Turn off Fox Noise and Educate yourself ...
    ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    Turn off Fox Noise and Educate yourself ...
    Turn off MSNBC and educate yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post

    It's over for people who aren't Putin's Little Bitch
    ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhym3pays View Post
    Yes, Obama didn't go to war with Russia over Crimea -- Trump would have actually sent troops over to stop Putin from taking Crimea -- OR -- Putin would have just told Trump he wanted to take Crimea and Trump would have told us how it was a good idea and no one would complain.

    Obama never ordered a stand down on Russian hacking because he was conspiring with Russia to get Hillary elected -- but God stepped in and stopped their evil plans -- Putin is not evil by the way, just Obama and Hillary.
    You're just like Trump a Putin stooge,and a traitor!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    It's over for people who aren't Putin's Little Bitch
    It's over? LMAO... again... educate yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    It's over? LMAO... again... educate yourself

    Yea Russian Ships are really sneaky ...

    ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    You seemed to have forgotten a few.

    Obama handed Crimea to Russia.

    Obama admin ordered Stand DOWN regarding Russian hacking. You know... that thing Dems are so 'pissed' about now.

    But you can read more here...

    http://thehill.com/<font size="7">op...obama-in-eight
    this is opinion

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