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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Automation is hitting white collar jobs as well
    At the rate it's hitting blue collar? Nope. Not buying it. You need to link to your source.

    Robots and automation are slowly creeping their way into the white-collar workplace, but their impact is generally benign.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/white...omation-2017-3
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Delete your account; kill yourself.

    U.S. Cities are Home to 62.7 Percent of the U.S. Population, but Comprise Just 3.5 Percent of Land Area
    March 4, 2015
    https://www.census.gov/newsroom/pres...5/cb15-33.html

    Where does it say "that by 2040, something like 70% of the population is going to be in just a small handful of states and cities. Which gives undue power to the rural lazy fuckers in the Senate and electoral college?"

    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    I think I read somewhere that by 2040, something like 70% of the population is going to be in just a small handful of states and cities. Which gives undue power to the rural lazy fuckers in the Senate and electoral college.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Explain how that benefits workers who don't belong to unions, because (R)s have done everything possible to bust them.
    Tariffs benefit a small number of people who work in a certain industry. They hurt everybody else. From strictly a political democrats and people like yourself don't care about them because they are uneducated racists who should leave the country. They served a useful purpose for you when they voted democratic but not anymore:

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    Hello cawacko,

    I am unable to read the full article.

    The part you posted seems a bit biased.

    It sort of acts like Trump had this huge landslide. That is not the reality. He just barely won the electoral college by tipping the very close scales in several crucial (winner take all) States. He lost the popular vote. Donald Trump DID NOT WIN THE POPULAR VOTE. He is unpopular.

    I think my analysis in my previous post stands. It is right on.

    Disgruntled ex-workers have had their emotions played. They want to cling to something. Trump told them to cling to hatred of immigrants.

    Immigrants didn't cause all this despair.

    Capitalism did.

    Trump and Republicans will not be able to deliver on their promises.

    All Trump seems to be good a delivering is diversions and false promises.

    Trump is a really bad liar. Oh, he's good at lying. And that makes him bad for America. He is bad for America because America cannot progress on LIES.

    America needs to face up to the truth.

    Jimmy Carter told the truth.

    'Human identity is no longer defined by what one does but rather by what one owns.'
    Trump thinks he is great because he owns a lot of wealth.

    He is the epitome of bad thinking.

    He doesn't get it, doesn't understand why he is so rejected.

    In his mind he is this big success.

    He has no love. He has a loveless marriage (third try) to a trophy wife who is only in it for the money. He has a son he spends no time with. He is hollow. He doesn't get it. Doesn't understand the beauty of life love and happiness. He thinks he can buy happiness and contentment with money. He looks frustrated. He sits there in meetings with his arms folded, a pout on his face, because people are telling him the truth he doesn't want to hear. He is not happy. He is not content. He can never be content because he seeks the wrong things. He thinks you get things by taking them away from others. If everybody thought like Trump the world would have nothing. Somebody has to create things. Somebody has to create things for other people. Real people. Trump thinks he creates things because he creates luxury buildings and golf courses for the rich. He creates things for the rich so he can get rich. He is not giving of himself to others. Somebody has to do that or there is nothing for everyday people.

    Trump is not our man. He is dedicated to the rich. He pretends to be dedicated to the uneducated. He says he loves the uneducated. Yes, he does. He loves the uneducated because they are easy to take advantage of. He can tell them their problems are created by immigrants when they are really created by oligarchs. He draws power from hatred. That is negative power and it will burn him. It will burn him and all those who support him.

    We have to get rid of Trump. We have to get rid of him and all the misguided thinking that allowed him to rise. He is the rise of hatred. We can only progress with the rise of love.

    Love is the answer. We need to simply love one another. Then all things are possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Really good article on the changing of the parties. I know as an ardent free trader my views were once dominant in the GOP but not anymore. Folks in the Democratic Party used to speak to the working man and little guy and now many of those people are referred to as deplorables and uneducated.
    As The Obama did for the gun industry, Hillbag did for the GOP. Plus, working folk appreciate it when they have jobs making stuff, not make-work and hand-outs as the 'rats have been doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Where does it say "that by 2040, something like 70% of the population is going to be in just a small handful of states and cities. Which gives undue power to the rural lazy fuckers in the Senate and electoral college?"
    Delete your account; kill yourself:

    “David Birdsell, dean of the school of public and international affairs at Baruch College, notes that by 2040, about 70% of Americans are expected to live in the 15 largest states,”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.eb2cb628bdbe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    Automation and Technology Advancements ... no one is Manually Doing Anything Anymore ... except Pumping their Own Gas.

    But please ... you're welcome to buy and Drive any Automobile that's Manually Put together any time you want.
    Your a fantasist.

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    Hello cawacko,

    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Unions support tariffs. This isn't new
    Unions can make mistakes. Unions are only thinking of workers. That doesn't mean unions are bad and should be eliminated.
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    And this is being replicated all over small town white America


    A DYING TOWN
    Here in a corner of Missouri and across America, the lack of a college education has become a public-health crisis.



    This small town in southeastern Missouri used to greet visitors with a different motto: "Service. Industry. Agriculture." But the machine-parts-maker closed and the trailer manufacturer left and the aluminum smelter went under. There’s not nearly as much industry around here as there used to be. Sheryl Crow’s Grammys aren’t going anywhere.

    Route 412 becomes First Street, and downtown opens up with a McDonald’s to your left and a Burger King to your right. There are just two grocery stores in town, but fast-food restaurants are everywhere. It’s easier to find a pharmacy than a salad bar.

    It would be easy to say this is just about being poor, but people who study the phenomenon say it’s not that simple. Yes, having a job — and the paycheck and health insurance that come with it — matters. Those aren’t all that make a difference, however. Better-educated people live in less-polluted areas, trust more in science.



    Dr. Arshad, came to the Bootheel 15 years ago. The region doesn’t produce many of its own doctors — few students aspire to medicine, and those who do must leave the area to earn a degree. Not many return.

    So the Bootheel imports its physicians, Dr. Arshad included. A federal program offers medical-school graduates a deal: Work for two years in certain rural and underserved areas and get much of your debt forgiven.

    For Dr. Arshad, two years became three, and then it was six, 10, 15. A few years back, Pemiscot Memorial Hospital, where he is medical director, nearly went under, burdened by bad debt. As the county hospital, Pemiscot Memorial must treat everyone who walks through its doors. Each year it provides at least $7 million in care to people who can’t pay the bill. With the hospital on the brink, many doctors closed their practices and left the area.

    Dr. Arshad stayed.

    Occasionally he thinks about leaving, but never for long. He’s part of the community here. People stop him in the grocery checkout line to tell him about their sore throats or the pain in their chest that’s been nagging them. They pull pill bottles out of their bags, medication that some specialist at one of the big hospitals in Cape Girardeau or Jonesboro has prescribed for them, and ask his advice: Is this really what I should be taking? What about the side effects listed here? They think of him as their physician.


    Dr. Abdullah Arshad is medical director at Pemiscot Memorial Hospital.
    When it comes down to it, he can’t leave. That’s his word, can’t. There is too much at stake here, the need too great. It’s tough and getting tougher to be poor and sick in the Bootheel.

    With layoffs, many people have lost their health insurance. At Dr. Arshad’s clinic, if patients don’t have insurance, they are charged on a sliding scale based on income. But many can’t come up with even that much, so the clinic has them fill out a form saying they’ll pay later. Dr. Arshad holds his hands about 18 inches apart. That’s what his current stack of unpaid bills looks like.

    "Of course," he says, "there never is a later."

    Other patients no longer qualify for Medicaid because of state policy changes. In recent years, Missouri has tightened its eligibility requirements. It’s one of a handful of states not to participate in the Medicaid expansion under the Affordable Care Act.

    The weakening of the social safety net has consequences.


    MAGA


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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    At the rate it's hitting blue collar? Nope. Not buying it. You need to link to your source.

    Robots and automation are slowly creeping their way into the white-collar workplace, but their impact is generally benign.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/white...omation-2017-3
    Jesus dude, stick to wishing death on people. I didn't say or insinuate it's hitting white collar workers at the same rate. That's just you projecting or lying. It is hitting white collar workers, that's just fact

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Tariffs benefit a small number of people who work in a certain industry. They hurt everybody else. From strictly a political democrats and people like yourself don't care about them because they are uneducated racists who should leave the country. They served a useful purpose for you when they voted democratic but not anymore:
    Do you think you could rewrite this in English? You started off discussing tariffs then segued into some moronic rant about "don't care about them" (them what? tariffs? No, we don't care for tariffs), then some derp about racists.

    Want to actually address what I wrote instead of ranting about some non-related nonsense? Or are you going to deny that the (R)s have made union-busting a priority?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Jesus dude, stick to wishing death on people. I did say or insinuate it's hitting white collar workers at the same rate. That's just you projecting or lying. It is hitting white collar workers, that's just fact
    Fuck man, why not just admit you were talking out of your ass?

    Why do you have to respond with shit like this?

    And yes, you did insinuate that, right here Reek:

    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Automation is hitting white collar jobs as well.
    Are those not your words? You didn't qualify that it was hitting them any different than blue collar. I think you think it was the same. That's why you made that shit statement in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Conservatives are not people; they're monsters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    As The Obama did for the gun industry, Hillbag did for the GOP. Plus, working folk appreciate it when they have jobs making stuff, not make-work and hand-outs as the 'rats have been doing.
    Working folk are easily replaced by robots on the line.

    You could replace a Trump voter with a robot and no one could tell the difference. I mean, just look at Twitter and Facebook; bots taking up Conservative causes by pretending to be Conservatives.

    Not only are robots replacing them on the line, they're also replacing them on social media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Delete your account; kill yourself: “David Birdsell, dean of the school of public and international affairs at Baruch College, notes that by 2040, about 70% of Americans are expected to live in the 15 largest states,” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.eb2cb628bdbe
    That wasn't in your original citation, was it?

    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Delete your account; kill yourself. U.S. Cities are Home to 62.7 Percent of the U.S. Population, but Comprise Just 3.5 Percent of Land Area March 4, 2015 https://www.census.gov/newsroom/pres...5/cb15-33.html
    Wasn't the Senate supposed to be a legislative check on heavily populated states?

    Still not seeing any reference to electoral votes.

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