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    Default Obama Spied on Trump Illegally as Early as 2015

    Breaking: More Evidence Uncovered Shows Obama Spied on Trump Illegally as Early as 2015

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...early-as-2015/

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvilleherb View Post
    Breaking: More Evidence Uncovered Shows Obama Spied on Trump Illegally as Early as 2015

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...early-as-2015/
    Gateway pundit? Really?

    4 surprising facts about Stefan Halper, a professor and top ...

    Stefan A. Halper is not your garden-variety FBI source. The retired American professor and foreign policy expert for Republican presidents is at the center of a fight between President Trump and his own Justice Department about the origins of the special counsel investigation of whether Trump's .

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0968e3e23870

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    Quote Originally Posted by krudzu View Post
    Gateway pundit? Really?
    Attacking the source is a logical fallacy. Can you substantially refute any of the points raised?

    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    Facts are facts. Numbers don't change depending on which website they happen to come from. But here you are, attacking the source once more. If you had anything more substantial, you'd post it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvilleherb View Post
    Breaking: More Evidence Uncovered Shows Obama Spied on Trump Illegally as Early as 2015



    Mueller and the FBI have been handing out immunity to leftists like candy since the 2016 campaign season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Attacking the source is a logical fallacy. Can you substantially refute any of the points raised?
    Gateway Pundit has a long, long reputation as tabloid garbage. .. and you are welcome to it.


    Stefan A. Halper is not your garden-variety FBI source.

    The retired American professor and foreign policy expert for Republican presidents is at the center of a fight between President Trump and his own Justice Department about the origins of the special counsel investigation of whether Trump's campaign colluded with Russia to win the 2016 presidential election.

    Halper also has unusual connections to the news media and the Trump administration. Here are four surprising things about Halper, whose name The Washington Post published on Monday after several other news organizations revealed his identity.

    1. The fact that we know his name at all: Halper is in the news because Trump and his allies in Congress have made his activities a target in their attempts to investigate (and, you could argue, undermine) the Russia investigation of Trump's campaign.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0968e3e23870

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    4. He was no fan of George W. Bush: Despite working for Bush's father and donating about $85,000 to Bush's first presidential campaign, Halper soon became a critic of the Iraq War, The Post reported.

    In a class taught by Halper that The Post's Robert Costa took in 2009 at the University of Cambridge in England, Halper “often raised questions about Bush’s decisions and embraced a traditional Republican approach to foreign policy that emphasized long-standing Western alliances and limited foreign intervention.”

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0968e3e23870

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    Quote Originally Posted by krudzu View Post
    4. He was no fan of George W. Bush: Despite working for Bush's father and donating about $85,000 to Bush's first presidential campaign, Halper soon became a critic of the Iraq War, The Post reported.
    Irrelevant. Are you going to post that tale a paragraph or two at a time?

    Attacking the source is a logical fallacy. Can you substantially refute any of the points raised in the Gateway Pundit article, or not?

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    Until 2016, just about everyone agreed that it was a bad thing for government intelligence or law enforcement agencies to spy — er, use "informants" — on a political campaign, especially one of the opposition party.

    Liberals were especially suspicious of the FBI and the CIA. Nowadays they say that anyone questioning their good faith is unpatriotic.

    The crime at the root of Watergate was an attempt at surveillance of the DNC after George McGovern seemed about to win the DEMOCRAT Party’s presidential nomination, just as the government misconduct in Russiagate was an attempt at surveillance of Trump.

    Tt was conventional wisdom that "Trump couldn’t be elected president". But his surprising and persistent strength in the Republican primaries left some doubtful, including the FBI lovebirds who instant messaged their desire for an “insurance policy” against that dreaded eventuality.

    Their unease may have owed something to their knowledge of how the Obama Justice Department and FBI had fixed the Hillary Clinton emails case.

    Has an outgoing administration ever worked to delegitimize and dislodge its successor like this?

    https://nypost.com/2018/05/27/obamas-spying-scandal-is-starting-to-look-a-lot-like-watergate/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Irrelevant. Are you going to post that tale a paragraph or two at a time?

    Attacking the source is a logical fallacy. Can you substantially refute any of the points raised in the Gateway Pundit article, or not?
    Halper is a true Republican.. NOT a neocon.. and an educated man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krudzu View Post
    Halper is a true Republican.. NOT a neocon.. and an educated man.
    Irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Irrelevant. Are you going to post that tale a paragraph or two at a time?

    Attacking the source is a logical fallacy. Can you substantially refute any of the points raised in the Gateway Pundit article, or not?

    Holy crap dude you're embarrassing yourself just stop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Until 2016, just about everyone agreed that it was a bad thing for government intelligence or law enforcement agencies to spy — er, use "informants" — on a political campaign, especially one of the opposition party.

    Liberals were especially suspicious of the FBI and the CIA. Nowadays they say that anyone questioning their good faith is unpatriotic.

    The crime at the root of Watergate was an attempt at surveillance of the DNC after George McGovern seemed about to win the DEMOCRAT Party’s presidential nomination, just as the government misconduct in Russiagate was an attempt at surveillance of Trump.

    Tt was conventional wisdom that "Trump couldn’t be elected president". But his surprising and persistent strength in the Republican primaries left some doubtful, including the FBI lovebirds who instant messaged their desire for an “insurance policy” against that dreaded eventuality.

    Their unease may have owed something to their knowledge of how the Obama Justice Department and FBI had fixed the Hillary Clinton emails case.

    Has an outgoing administration ever worked to delegitimize and dislodge its successor like this?

    https://nypost.com/2018/05/27/obamas-spying-scandal-is-starting-to-look-a-lot-like-watergate/
    Strzok hated Trump because of who and what Trump represented.

    His texts to Lisa Page made that abundantly clear. And it’s been reported that Page testified behind close doors that those texts ‘mean exactly what they say’—contrary to Strzok’s implausible explanations for them.

    Add in the fact Trump’s election would increase the probability that the Clinton email investigation would, itself, become subject to an investigation, then you have plenty of motive for criminal activity on Strzok’s part.

    Strzok was over the Clinton investigation and the earliest stages of the Trump investigation. He was removed from the Russian investigation and demoted rather quietly—one gets the idea some people were hoping no one would notice it.

    Throw in such unrepentant weasels as Comey and Brennen as parallel players and one can see the potential for treasonous activity.

    At least it’s more treasonous than criticizing the IC in front of a world leader.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    ONE-N-DONE, YOU GOT PLAYED; Time To Play-On
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvilleherb View Post
    Breaking: More Evidence Uncovered Shows Obama Spied on Trump Illegally as Early as 2015

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...early-as-2015/
    what's wrong with that?

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    Free speech is cool as long as it jibes with our program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    So Call a Lawyer or STFU
    sure thing, evince.
    Free speech is cool as long as it jibes with our program.

    -- The Left


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