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    The over the top reaction to President Trumps meeting with Putin was too orchestrated and too over the top to be believed. Remember, there are no coincidences in politics particularly with the left wing.

    I wonder if maybe they are beginning to see signs that their vaunted blue wave may not materialize in November and this little episode was a way of saying "See, Trump colluded with Putin to sway the mid terms. We were supposed to have a blue wave........."

    Just something to noodle around

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    Didn't The Obama say that there was no way anyone could meddle with a US national election because it was so decentralized?

    Notice how the narrative has been changed- 'the Russians meddled with the election', when it used to be 'the Russians meddled with the campaign'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    Didn't The Obama say that there was no way anyone could meddle with a US national election because it was so decentralized?
    Is that what he actually said?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Is that what he actually said?
    No, but truth is not relevant to the right wing agenda just as it was not to you when you started this thread. It was not the "blue wing" alone that was upset at the lies of Trump in Helsinki in case you had not noticed. Trump had the opportunity to show some integrity, and balls, when beside Putin, yet decided to be the coward he is.
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    No, but truth is not relevant to the right wing agenda just as it was not to you when you started this thread. It was not the "blue wing" alone that was upset at the lies of Trump in Helsinki in case you had not noticed. Trump had the opportunity to show some integrity, and balls, when beside Putin, yet decided to be the coward he is.
    I didn't start this thread.

    I've also noted a similarity in the wording of many commentaries on Helsinki, which could indicate orchestration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    No, but truth is not relevant to the right wing agenda just as it was not to you when you started this thread. It was not the "blue wing" alone that was upset at the lies of Trump in Helsinki in case you had not noticed. Trump had the opportunity to show some integrity, and balls, when beside Putin, yet decided to be the coward he is.
    Lol, that's exactly what Obama said. Skip to 3:30 if you don't want to suffer through 5 minutes of fingernails on a chalkboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Is that what he actually said?
    Yes. 3:30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Lol, that's exactly what Obama said. Skip to 3:30 if you don't want to suffer through 5 minutes of fingernails on a chalkboard.
    As usual you are lying. Obama said the election could not be RIGGED. Of course, you have to actually be able to comprehend the English language to grasp what was meant.
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    I didn't start this thread.

    I've also noted a similarity in the wording of many commentaries on Helsinki, which could indicate orchestration.
    Yeah right. How many have you actually listened to? Guess your Republicans (Gingrich for example) was in on it too. Then, I suspect since the right wingers like Grassley, Ryan, etc., came crawling to Trumps ring after he "apologized" for his lies, the "orchestration" will continue on.
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    Yeah right. How many have you actually listened to? Guess your Republicans (Gingrich for example) was in on it too. Then, I suspect since the right wingers like Grassley, Ryan, etc., came crawling to Trumps ring after he "apologized" for his lies, the "orchestration" will continue on.
    I've noticed what could be construed as a pre-planned campaign of disinformation about the Helsinki summit. As the topic of the thread states:

    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    The over the top reaction to President Trumps meeting with Putin was too orchestrated and too over the top to be believed. Remember, there are no coincidences in politics particularly with the left wing.

    I wonder if maybe they are beginning to see signs that their vaunted blue wave may not materialize in November and this little episode was a way of saying "See, Trump colluded with Putin to sway the mid terms. We were supposed to have a blue wave........."

    Just something to noodle around

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Aren't "rigging" and "meddling" synonyms in the context of elections?

    Regarding the topic of the thread, have you noted a similarity or uniformity in the responses t the Helsinki meeting that the OP refers to??
    Not at all if you understood the English language. Like I said, truth is not relevant to you as facts are not.

    As to Helsinki, there was only one press conference, and they all heard the same thing, so why would the reporting be different? If it was something else then why did your liar feel the need to apologize, or "clarify"?
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    I've noticed what could be construed as a pre-planned campaign of disinformation about the Helsinki summit. As the topic of the thread states:
    Do you have an example, of just more delusions, and lies?
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    Not at all if you understood the English language. Like I said, truth is not relevant to you as facts are not. As to Helsinki, there was only one press conference, and they all heard the same thing, so why would the reporting be different? If it was something else then why did your liar feel the need to apologize, or "clarify"?

    My understanding of the language differs from yours. I don't recall having a "liar", BTW.

    Would you like to discuss the topic of the thread now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    Do you have an example, of just more delusions, and lies?
    I have quite a few examples. Here is a summation:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    As usual you are lying. Obama said the election could not be RIGGED. Of course, you have to actually be able to comprehend the English language to grasp what was meant.
    It's on video dipshit. You are either lying, or in denial and didn't watch the video.

    Starting at about 3:15:

    "There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America's elections. In part because they're so decentralized".
    Last edited by countryboy; 07-19-2018 at 01:09 PM.
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