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[CFM]

You do understand that Medicare has existed for over 50 years and not one time did I say that Obamacare is Medicare?

but Medicare should be for all if people so choose it -- that is what the public option was supposed to be about.

If you hate Medicare for All and don't want it, opt out and purchase a plan on the market -- however you won't be able to get it thru your employer because thankfully, employers won't be burdened with paying for their employees health coverage

Those that supported Obamacare were using it as a push for, wait for it, Medicare for all. They considered it a stepping stone to single payer.

Be careful about using the public opinion concept. You might have to support something you currently oppose due to holding that stance.

I've supported the concept of opting out of social security for years. I'd prefer to invest my money the way I see fit instead of being forced to fund those that didn't prepare for retirement.

[Nomad]

I oppose social security and medicare. Neither are delegated powers.

Keep trying.

Are you going to refuse to collect SS and not sign up for Medicare?

Of course you're not.

I can't wait to see you in line with both hands out begging for both while chanting "Gimme gimme gimme...."

Fucking ignorant redneck hypocrite.

[Nomad]

Those that supported Obamacare were using it as a push for, wait for it, Medicare for all. They considered it a stepping stone to single payer.

Be careful about using the public opinion concept. You might have to support something you currently oppose due to holding that stance.

I've supported the concept of opting out of social security for years. I'd prefer to invest my money the way I see fit instead of being forced to fund those that didn't prepare for retirement.

Lying shitbag.

On the first day you're eligible you'll be at the head of the line at the Social Security office grabbing that check with both paws.

[rhym3pays]

Lyndon Johnson, one of the biggest socialist ever elected to office signed the bill into law. He saw it as a chance to buy votes. He's also the one that said he'd "have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years" and damn if they haven't obliged him for the first 50.

If anyone in society goes without something one of your beloved handout programs can't meet, blame it on yourself. If you support them having it, you pay for it with your money.

The founders didn't believe general welfare was designed to provide such programs. Why do you?

Why would LBJ think something as horrible and evil as providing good healthcare to senior citizens would be popular and get him votes? Maybe because the policy was effective? Are you upset that less than 50% of seniors had health coverage before Medicare to well over 90% of seniors being covered?

Why do you depraved Trumptards get off so much on seeing people die needlessly? Why are you people more excited about paying for a school full of brown people to be blown up in the middle east than building better schools here?

[CFM]

Are you going to refuse to collect SS and not sign up for Medicare?

Of course you're not.

I can't wait to see you in line with both hands out begging for both while chanting "Gimme gimme gimme...."

Fucking ignorant redneck hypocrite.

I've been required to pay into it. That would be like refusing to drive a car off the lot you paid for. I don't expect you to see the difference.

When are those that don't pay the taxes that fund social welfare programs going to start refusing them?

You don't have the guts to show in a location where you live despite offering an invitation for me to come there.

[CFM]

Lying shitbag.

On the first day you're eligible you'll be at the head of the line at the Social Security office grabbing that check with both paws.

You mean like you do at the mailbox in your government housing complex the first of each month?

Difference, boy, is that I am getting what I was required to put into and you're getting something which you don't fund.

[CFM]

Why would LBJ think something as horrible and evil as providing good healthcare to senior citizens would be popular and get him votes? Maybe because the policy was effective? Are you upset that less than 50% of seniors had health coverage before Medicare to well over 90% of seniors being covered?

Why do you depraved Trumptards get off so much on seeing people die needlessly? Why are you people more excited about paying for a school full of brown people to be blown up in the middle east than building better schools here?

Why didn't that n-loving piece of white trailer trash fund it himself, then?

Since I don't hold a responsibility to any of them, I can't be held accountable for what happens. Since you claim to have such a responsibility, if they die needlessly, it's on you.

[ThatOwlWoman]

Third party and other "alternative candidates", and many of their ideas, sound good on paper, but all they ever do is split the vote and make it harder for the most viable candidate to win.
Too many people want overnight change in this country and that just doesn't reflect reality.
Unfortunately, change comes incrementally in small bites.

I think (D)s will kick ass if they can embrace third party progressive candidates and meld their platforms and ideas... and tickets as well.

[Nomad]

I think (D)s will kick ass if they can embrace third party progressive candidates and meld their platforms and ideas... and tickets as well.

Maybe. It's hard to predict anything nowadays, everyone is so fractured and splintered.

My belief is that there are more centrist/conservative Democrat and Independent voters than there are progressives. I think that to these voters, some of the ideas that progressives back seem a bit extreme, which might suppress voter turnout.

But then again, there are a lot of intangible factors that go into a candidate's mass appeal.

Get the right person on the ballot and it might not matter as much what their stances are on certain specific policies.

Look at Trump. Brags about grabbing pussy, shooting people on 5th Avenue, entangled from head to toe in a web of Russian skullduggery and yet, his lapdogs can't stop licking his face.

And other.... places.

[PostmodernProphet]

Why do you depraved Trumptards get off so much on seeing people die needlessly?

don't be silly......you should die, but it should be for a purpose......

[Nomad]

I've been required to pay into it. That would be like refusing to drive a car off the lot you paid for. I don't expect you to see the difference.

When are those that don't pay the taxes that fund social welfare programs going to start refusing them?

You don't have the guts to show in a location where you live despite offering an invitation for me to come there.

You mean like you do at the mailbox in your government housing complex the first of each month?

Difference, boy, is that I am getting what I was required to put into and you're getting something which you don't fund.

Fuck you, dirty redneck turd. I own my house and I've paid more into SS in ten years than you've paid in your entire worthless scumbag maggot life. The difference is that even though I've paid plenty into the system, I'm not such a greedy asshole that I'd begrudge those (like you) who haven't paid in as much as me, being able to enjoy a halfway decent standard of living in their old age. Anyone who'd begrudge elderly people a living income doesn't deserve to call themself an American or even walk this Earth.

But I am glad you finally admitted what a massive, blabbering, yammering hypocrite shitbag you are by throwing a diaper shitting temper tantrum about Social Security and Medicare and all the while, collecting it yourself.

Just like you calling me gutless for not giving a scumbag ex-con prison rat like you my address and lying about me supposedly inviting you here, even though you're the one who invited me to come to your dumpy shithole trailer first, but were too gutless to give me your address.

You're the biggest scum sucking liar hypocrite on this board.

[christiefan915]

What is it with libs going to conspiracy theories all the time? BUsh caused 9/11, Trump colluded, or Putin has dirt on Trump.

Maybe he is working Putin so we can make peace, and get him to give up on aggressive politics? What's wrong with trying to get along with a rival rather than start another cold war, or ww3?

You don't need to trash your own country's institutions just because you're working with Putin.

[Irish]

Heirarchy of victimhood? You mean who are America's punching bags?

Wtf are you talking about?

[Irish]

What a naive dumb fuck!Trump works for Trump and only Trump!

Who did Obama work for? It certainly wasn't America.

[Irish]

What is it with opioid addled uneducated deplorables trying to avoid reality

Try using arguments and logic next time.