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    Quote Originally Posted by rhym3pays View Post
    Funny how whenever we talk about increasing defense spending by almost 1 trillion dollars, nobody ever asks how will it be paid for?

    Especially when you consider we outspend everyone else on defense spending by orders of magnitude

    Now if you tell those people that for the same amount we want to increase defense spending, we can provide debt free loans that results in people not entering the workforce already steeped in debt -- people will be in favor of it like they already have been --- no matter how much you fear monger it.
    Funny how when you look at the Constitution, it specifically says Congress has the power to raise/support armyies and provide/maintain a navy yet nothing about providing people something they refuse to provide themselves. For you to support social welfare handouts, you have to take something in the Constitution and twist yourself into a pretzel in order to believe it says what you WANT it to say.

    Sounds to me as if your problem is with the amount being spent. Even the founding fathers supported defense/military spending. military spending.jpg

    If you tell a bunch of freeloaders you'll give them something and require someone else to pay for it, what else to you think a freeloader would do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    I personally believe Putin has some dirt on Trump too?!! If this is the case, Trump should resign for the good of our country?!!

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...091425589.html

    I hope this stays in news, up to the midterms?!!

    trumpy is not Into the good of this nation

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Funny how when you look at the Constitution, it specifically says Congress has the power to raise/support armyies and provide/maintain a navy yet nothing about providing people something they refuse to provide themselves. For you to support social welfare handouts, you have to take something in the Constitution and twist yourself into a pretzel in order to believe it says what you WANT it to say.

    Sounds to me as if your problem is with the amount being spent. Even the founding fathers supported defense/military spending. military spending.jpg

    If you tell a bunch of freeloaders you'll give them something and require someone else to pay for it, what else to you think a freeloader would do?
    the general welfare


    that means Americans decide what is in our best interests you fucking bloody dung heap

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    the general welfare


    that means Americans decide what is in our best interests you fucking bloody dung heap
    Translation: CFM is correct that we have to take something and twist it into to what we want it to say

    I have no problem if more is spent on the military and less is spent on the freeloaders that won't do for themselves. The Constitution agrees with me.

    Maybe those that won't do even the most basic things for themselves will starve and we won't have to worry about them again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Translation: CFM is correct that we have to take something and twist it into to what we want it to say

    I have no problem if more is spent on the military and less is spent on the freeloaders that won't do for themselves. The Constitution agrees with me.

    Maybe those that won't do even the most basic things for themselves will starve and we won't have to worry about them again.
    only you think so asshole


    that is why we have a scotus

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    only you think so asshole


    that is why we have a scotus
    The Constitution thinks so, too. Why do you hate the Constitution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Funny how when you look at the Constitution, it specifically says Congress has the power to raise/support armyies and provide/maintain a navy yet nothing about providing people something they refuse to provide themselves. For you to support social welfare handouts, you have to take something in the Constitution and twist yourself into a pretzel in order to believe it says what you WANT it to say.

    Sounds to me as if your problem is with the amount being spent. Even the founding fathers supported defense/military spending. military spending.jpg

    If you tell a bunch of freeloaders you'll give them something and require someone else to pay for it, what else to you think a freeloader would do?
    Another idiot who doesn't know what the general welfare clause of the constitution is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhym3pays View Post
    Another idiot who doesn't know what the general welfare clause of the constitution is...
    I'm well aware that you have to twist yourself up in order to pretend it is what you claim it is.

    You complain about spending on something for which there is delegated authority yet have no problem spending on things for which none exists. You can't argue from the standpoint of the Constitution says it, you have to argue from the standpoint of we want it to say those things.

    The general welfare clause doesn't exist nor was it intended to exist so people that won't do for themselves should have something they didn't earn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhym3pays View Post
    Another idiot who doesn't know what the general welfare clause of the constitution is...
    It is in the preamble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    I'm well aware that you have to twist yourself up in order to pretend it is what you claim it is.

    You complain about spending on something for which there is delegated authority yet have no problem spending on things for which none exists. You can't argue from the standpoint of the Constitution says it, you have to argue from the standpoint of we want it to say those things.

    The general welfare clause doesn't exist nor was it intended to exist so people that won't do for themselves should have something they didn't earn.
    I care about what policies provide the best outcomes for the most people -- I don't care which party wants to take credit for it

    What sycophants like you care about is only making sure people you don't like get hurt

    You would rather waste a trillion dollars on defense spending for shit we will never need -- especially if you same idiots believe we now have world peace -- but you folks would rather waste money on that than to spend half of that to ensure no American is denied health coverage because of pre-existing conditions, loss of a job, accident, etc.


    Here is the real truth about cucks like you and socialism -- you are all for it as long as you can insure "those others" don't benefit from it -- which makes you depraved miserable people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    It is in the preamble.
    If you want to have a debate on the intent of the preamble -- feel free -- I still stand by the fact that one of the core responsibilities of our local, state and federal government is to promote the general welfare of the people

    I am sure you don't object to police departments do you? since they derive their power from the federal and states' power to regulate behavior and enforce order within their territory for the betterment of the health, safety, morals, and general welfare of their inhabitants. -- that damn general welfare thing again...and health, who the hell snuck health in there..next people are going to be expecting government to do something about healthcare

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    <picks self up after rolling across the floor laughing butt off>

    Sure thing, dude. That's why the (D)s picked Clinton over Sanders in 2016. You know Sanders? The one and only actual socialist politician? The one they shoved to the side in favor of the corporatist medium-right Clinton?
    Zymurgy was toasted with this post

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    they have to do something to distract the fact the democrats are becoming a socialist party.
    I think Democrats becoming a Socialist party in this day and age is becoming their best selling point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    me too.....independents eat this stuff up.......
    Yeah both of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    What is it with libs going to conspiracy theories all the time? BUsh caused 9/11, Trump colluded, or Putin has dirt on Trump.

    Maybe he is working Putin so we can make peace, and get him to give up on aggressive politics? What's wrong with trying to get along with a rival rather than start another cold war, or ww3?
    What a naive dumb fuck!Trump works for Trump and only Trump!

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