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    “I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace than to risk peace in pursuit of politics,”
    trump.

    awesome..American politics are poisoned by Russiaphobia / Mueller / "da Russian".

    Trump takes the difficult road eschewing political gain for peace

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    An American President sided with Russia over our own intelligence community.

    And it's "awesome."

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    Oh - and we have peace with Russia. We always have had peace w/ Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    trump.

    awesome..American politics are poisoned by Russiaphobia / Mueller / "da Russian".

    Trump takes the difficult road eschewing political gain for peace
    You are an idiot moron Trader or drug-addled take your pick

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    President Trump and Vladimir Putin tackled allegations of election meddling in unprecedented terms following their one-on-one summit Monday, with Trump opening the door to an unusual offer of cooperation in the special counsel probe and the Russian president suggesting he indeed favored the billionaire businessman in 2016.

    But Putin, emphatically and repeatedly, denied meddling in the U.S. election, saying there's "no evidence." And Trump, while saying they spent a "great deal of time" discussing the allegations, blasted the ongoing probe as a "disaster for our country."

    The two leaders spoke at a freewheeling joint press conference following a pair of meetings -- one private -- in Helsinki, Finland. Trump and Putin touted the summit as a "success," vowing to improve ties on a range of issues.

    “I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace than to risk peace in pursuit of politics,” Trump declared.

    During their press conference, few topics were off limits. The session with international reporters ended with Putin being asked whether he had compromising material on Trump, which he dismissed as "nonsense." Even that moment was overshadowed by the extensive comments on election meddling.

    Trump once again asserted there was "no collusion."

    I didn’t know the president. There was no one to collude with, and there was no collusion with the campaign,” Trump said, suggesting Democrats have used the issue as an excuse for losing. “We ran a brilliant campaign, and that’s why I’m president.”

    When asked which side is responsible for damaged relations, Trump said, "I hold both countries responsible."

    The statement drew bipartisan criticism back in Washington.

    "This is bizarre and flat-out wrong. The United States is not to blame," Sen. Ben Sasse, R-Neb., said in a statement.

    Former CIA director John Brennan, who frequently blasts Trump, tweeted: "Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of 'high crimes & misdemeanors.' It was nothing short of treasonous."

    The two leaders said they discussed a host of other issues during their meeting Monday in Helsinki, and were working toward strengthening U.S.-Russian relations -- which Trump said “has never been worse than it is now” despite the push from Democrats and some Republicans back home in the U.S. to cancel the summit.

    But he said the relationship has changed. Trump said he would “not make decisions on foreign policy in a futile effort to appease partisan critics, the media or Democrats who want to resist and obstruct.”

    At one point, Putin handed Trump a soccer ball and said "the ball is now in your court."

    The joint press conference was held minutes after the historic summit between the two leaders Monday. The two met one-on-one for more than two hours, and later in an expanded meeting with key advisers.

    Trump, as the private meeting began earlier Monday, said the two would have “a lot of good things to talk about,” from trade to missile defense to China. A host of other issues, from Russia election meddling to the annexation of Crimea to Syria, were also expected to come up.

    “I think we will end up having an extraordinary relationship,” Trump said, sitting next to Putin earlier at the presidential palace in Helsinki.
    “Getting along with Russia is a good thing, not a bad thing.”
    Putin later said he and Trump agreed to continue detailed discussions on arms control issues.

    Putin said Russia and the U.S. should discuss a possible extension of the 2010 New START nuclear arms reduction treaty and the implementation of the 1987 Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty.


    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...s-success.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Oh - and we have peace with Russia. We always have had peace w/ Russia.
    cold war escalation and hot rhetoric is hardly peace. Fly by's by ships. NATO expansion. fomenting revolution in Kyiv...

    all of this puts us on a flash point trip wire

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    Former CIA director John Brennan, who frequently blasts Trump, tweeted: "Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of 'high crimes & misdemeanors.' It was nothing short of treasonous."
    deep state russiaphobia...why the FBI investigation became a special counsel

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    cold war escalation and hot rhetoric is hardly peace. Fly by's by ships. NATO expansion. fomenting revolution in Kyiv...

    all of this puts us on a flash point trip wire
    That's fearmongering. We're not on any kind of "trip wire." We're nowhere near any kind of war or hostilities w/ Russia.

    They're an adversary, and we don't (or shouldn't) trust them. That's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    An American President sided with Russia over our own intelligence community.

    And it's "awesome."
    Obama: "The notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them, which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration (Bush), is ridiculous."
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    An American President sided with Russia over our own intelligence community.

    And it's "awesome."
    He never sided WITH Russia; that's moronic. The notion that Trump doesn't love this country more than the entire band of idiots within the DNC is not merely moronic, but preposterous.

    It's almost as stupid as ignoring Julian Assange when he tells us he did not get the hacked e-mails from Russians.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Oh - and we have peace with Russia. We always have had peace w/ Russia.
    When did we have war with Russia?
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    You are an idiot moron Trader or drug-addled take your pick
    ^There's some MAJOR IRONY.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    That's fearmongering. We're not on any kind of "trip wire." We're nowhere near any kind of war or hostilities w/ Russia.

    They're an adversary, and we don't (or shouldn't) trust them. That's it.
    Obama said such talk is ridiculous. Was he an idiot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    You are an idiot moron Trader or drug-addled take your pick
    I'm sticking by my buddy's general personality, even though I have both of his accounts on ignore. I do find it odd that Anatta posts to Noise...

    It's the drugs.

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    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    That's fearmongering. We're not on any kind of "trip wire." We're nowhere near any kind of war or hostilities w/ Russia.

    They're an adversary, and we don't (or shouldn't) trust them. That's it.
    It's a little more severe, now that our POTUS is owned by Putin. trump cannot be trusted to put this country's affairs before those of his own.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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