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I just heard a clip of Trump making a press statement about meeting with Putin.
Talked all around it, but not one single word about election meddling.
We totally need a new president.
This guy is not representing us very well.
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PoliTalker (07-16-2018)
Meddling is too weak a term. It sounds like they had no plan and were just playing around. It was a criminal cyber attack on America and an interference in our election. It was done by Putins military men and likely with Vlad overseeing it.
Putin has a perfect response if Trump tells him about it. Putin will say he is just doing what Trump asked him to do. Trump has no standing to confront Vlad. He was involved.
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evince (07-16-2018), PoliTalker (07-16-2018), ThatOwlWoman (07-16-2018)
Let's play alternative history.
13 Sept. 2001 (Washington DC) President George W. Bush spoke privately today via satellite conference with Al Queda leader Osama bin Laden. At a press briefing following their discussion, President Bush firmly stated: "I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but Mr. bin Laden was strong and forceful in his denial of these terrorist attacks, and I believe him."
*Both* sides would be calling for his head on a pike. But not in 2018 America; nope, Putin is our buddy and Trump is our saviour and lord.
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Darth Omar (07-16-2018)
Hello aloysious,
Look at it this way.
If Trump was clean, and he just got this information that the FBI charged a dozen Russian intelligence officer with meddling in our election, he should be all over Putin about it.
Instead, Trump tosses Putin a softball question and then accepts Putin's pre-prepared answer, no further questions asked.
That tells the whole world, like a big flashing neon sign, that Trump is dirty.
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christiefan915 (07-16-2018), evince (07-16-2018)
It tells me he doesn't want to get involved. He could do an Obama and tell Putin, "Now cut that out." As if that would do any good.
Besides, If Putin was aware of hacking DNC emails, and it helped Trump get elected I'd tell him "Thank you. Now please don't do that again, and cut it out."
If you were a Berniebot wouldn't you be outraged at what the DNC did to Bernie and wouldn't you be grateful to be aware of what they did?
You (not Trumpsters or anybody but hrc'ers) can look at it two ways:
1. Helping Trump (bad) exposed the corruption of the DNC (good).
OR
2. Exposing the corruption of the DNC (good) helped Trump (bad).
christiefan915 (07-16-2018), ThatOwlWoman (07-16-2018)
Putin totally has to have pee tapes.
I never put much stock into pee-gate before today.
I cannot ever recall a U.S. president behaving so submissively to a Russian dictator, siding with the Kremlin against our intelligence agencies, and generally just getting totally owned by a Russian leader.
Althea (07-16-2018), christiefan915 (07-16-2018), PoliTalker (07-17-2018)
I just can't believe the "Peegate" thing is real. If it was, Trump would be asking Fox to play it, and then sell copies. "Look, I have the best Russian hookers, the most beautiful. When you're Trump, they'll do anything, anything for you, pee on the bed where Obama slept, jump on trampolines, anything!"
It's financial. He's in hock to Russian banks, quite possibly the Russian underworld as well. Putin knows it; he has his fingers in everything. The most terrifying thing to Trump is the collapse of his empire.
Personally, I cannot wait for that day.
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