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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    I swear you have become a clone of John McCain "weak/strong" -what does that even mean in the real world?

    You do know Trump has been much tougher on Putin then Obama?..maybe not
    Weak means obsequious and ineffectual. Strong means principled and cautious.

    See how easy that is in the real world?

    Trump was the former today - bigtime. It's impossible to defend his performance this morning, but I'm sure you'll give it a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    What is truly embarrassing is that any reporter would be stupid enough to expect the president to offend a nuclear super power that has always been very suspicious of us. If Reagan and Gorbachev hadn't become friendly the cold war most likely would have continued and the Soviet Union might not have collapsed. So Trump is following sound principles in dealing with a potential hostile nuclear nation.
    I thought our freedom and strength ended the Cold War -- but now according to Trump lovers, it was being friendly to a leader of the Soviet Union, got it.

    Maybe we should just be friendly to all of the murderous dictators around the world --- and all this time conservatives would have us believe that "appeasing dictators" was a bad thing.

    Oh and by the way, to suggest that a country would voluntarily collapse its economic system and break up their country because their leader was friendly with another leader is an absolutely idiotic thing to believe, but common for a Trump supporter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    It's all high fives when the Russian higher-ups get together w/ Putin after this one.

    What a complete embarrassment.
    more deflections..
    Nothing has changed with Russia. sanctions are on, Javelin sold to Ukraine militias, NATO funding up..

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    more deflections..
    Nothing has changed with Russia. sanctions are on, Javelin sold to Ukraine militias, NATO funding up..
    It's not a "deflection." Even Fox is mystified.

    Putin is loving it today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Weak means obsequious and ineffectual. Strong means principled and cautious.

    See how easy that is in the real world?

    Trump was the former today - bigtime. It's impossible to defend his performance this morning, but I'm sure you'll give it a go.
    those are words without any meaning in the real world.

    Last thing I'm going to do is "defend" Trump from your blandishments of "weak and strong".
    They are silly attributions

    You should look at the current state of US/Russian relations and see how "strong" they are -but you won't
    you'd rather blather on about you perceived appearences

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    Quote Originally Posted by United76America View Post
    Investigator, yes. Special counsel, no. The scope of a special counsel investigation is suppose to be narrow. Any crime that a special counsel comes across that is not within the scope of his or her investigation must be passed along to the department of justice to be referred for investigation otherwise. This is the reason why Congress is demanding to know the original scope of the Mueller probe. Because Mueller is refusing to tell them.
    Was the Kenneth Starr investigation narrow in scope? It was an investigation of a land deal in case you forgot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    It's not a "deflection." Even Fox is mystified.

    Putin is loving it today.
    mystified about what..the fact Putin has continued to deny? why is that surprising?
    More importantly what does it mean in the real world? Putin is looking at areas where we can work together -so is Trump -why does this bother you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    It is typical Trumpian psychobabble, agreed, empty word salad is the norm in america now, just keep the mouth moving and generate vibratory sound waves.
    While you gave a really good description of your post, once again:
    What was said, that is a problem?
    SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.


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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    mystified about what..the fact Putin has continued to deny? why is that surprising?
    More importantly what does it mean in the real world? Putin is looking at areas where we can work together -so is Trump -why does this bother you?
    Why does it bother me to see Trump side w/ Russia over our own intelligence community?

    Hmmmmm.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    The indictments against Manafort, Flynn, and Gates are with regard to their shady financial dealings with Russians, thus giving them the motivation to conspire with Russia.
    And nothing has been shown that it involved Trump or that he knew about it.
    SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    No evidence you've seen yet. Apparently, it was so overwhelming that Flynn and Gates pleaded guilty already to lesser charges. That seems to indicate they're turning evidence against the conspirators.

    Seems to me, based on Mueller's indictments from last week, that there was definitely contact between Trump and Russia. We already know Roger Stone was in touch with Russia because he admitted it. Roger Stone was also in contact with Trump senior advisors, maybe even Trump himself.

    The picture is very broad, but it's there.
    No evidence that anyone has seen. Yet the assumption is guilt. That to me, presuming guilt over innocence, threatens our democracy.

    And once again, in his announcement of the 12 most recent indictments of Russians, Mueller stated that no American or Trump campaign worker had any connection with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    I have to wonder why somebody would defend somebody that's a traitor
    Once again, no one has provided a single shred of evidence that Trump is a traitor. Obama commuted the sentence of Bradley Manning, who was a traitor. Obama traded 5 senior Taliban commanders for Bergdhal. Who was a traitor. Obama offered flexibility to the Russians. Obama sent billions in cash on pallets to Iran in the dead of night. Obama offered the Russian reset.

    The idea that conservatives are defending a traitor has no basis in evidence or facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    No evidence you've seen yet. Apparently, it was so overwhelming that Flynn and Gates pleaded guilty already to lesser charges. That seems to indicate they're turning evidence against the conspirators.

    Seems to me, based on Mueller's indictments from last week, that there was definitely contact between Trump and Russia. We already know Roger Stone was in touch with Russia because he admitted it. Roger Stone was also in contact with Trump senior advisors, maybe even Trump himself.

    The picture is very broad, but it's there.
    And the key word and hope that liberals keep pining their dreams on, is "YET"!!

    Try praying; because all else seems to have failed.
    SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.


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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    While you gave a really good description of your post, once again:
    What was said, that is a problem?
    Read the post again, it's all there already. And bear in mind, I've repeatedly said that I feel Don is the perfect representation to the world of the state of american society at present. We should have an obvious con man as president, because america itself is a con.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    Read the post again, it's all there already. And bear in mind, I've repeatedly said that I feel Don is the perfect representation to the world of the state of american society at present. We should have an obvious con man as president, because america itself is a con.
    Once again:
    What was said, that is a problem?
    SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.


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