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    because a personal choice of dead children is not civilized......

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Purposely retarding children should be a crime as society will be the ones to pay the price for ignorance and backwardness
    I agree.....but allowing atheists to raise children is not illegal and cannot be so under the constitution.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Child abuse is prevalent with fundamentalists, physically and mentally
    no more so than under atheists......

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Purposely retarding children should be a crime as society will be the ones to pay the price for ignorance and backwardness
    Most blacks purposely do that! Inner city blacks are the worst and society has paid a high price in housing them in prison feeding them etc

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    There are two quotes which intelligent people always keep in their minds.

    Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.___Samuel Johnson

    Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.___Karl Marx

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    humans gave birth and raised perfectly healthy infants LONG BEFORE hospitals and med insurance existed, so how is this now a religious issue?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Yet we allow them to refuse to prepare their children for the real world by their teaching of myths and fables as factual information. Like that intelligent design nonsense. Some even go so far as to forbid their kids reading materials, certain TV programs, movies, music. My parents didn't do that, but they did shelter us far too much from the real world. It was a shock to grow up and not have defenses because not everyone out there is kind and good like your parents. I can't imagine that shock tripled.
    you also teach them to rely on government, believe that others are more qualified to run their lives than they are, and accept that they are inferior to a caste of government personnel who enforce governments will.....so who is really the evil ones here?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Seems like an issue every comment on here would be in agreement with. Parents who neglect the medical needs of their children causing them harm or death is a big fat NO and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    And yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    because a personal choice of dead children is not civilized......
    'Personal Choice' ... is Civilization. You want to dictate to others your personal beliefs, that was done in Europe 500 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha68 View Post
    Seems like an issue every comment on here would be in agreement with. Parents who neglect the medical needs of their children causing them harm or death is a big fat NO and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    And yet...
    does that mean we should IGNORE the jehovahs witness issue of no outside blood products?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    does that mean we should IGNORE the jehovahs witness issue of no outside blood products?
    On the adults? Yep. Let them die from lack of a blood transfusion if they so wish but to allow their children to die due to the parent's belief is heinous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha68 View Post
    On the adults? Yep. Let them die from lack of a blood transfusion if they so wish but to allow their children to die due to the parent's belief is heinous.
    so from the moment of birth til the age of 18, we should make those kids wards of the state and remove parental rights?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    so from the moment of birth til the age of 18, we should make those kids wards of the state and remove parental rights?
    It's too late by then. You have to get things right BEFORE kids are born.

    Every couple should be tested by a board of certified geneticists and psychologists to see if they merit a license to procreate.

    Assholes shouldn't have parental rights because they have no right to be parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    It's too late by then. You have to get things right BEFORE kids are born.

    Every couple should be tested by a board of certified geneticists and psychologists to see if they merit a license to procreate.

    Assholes shouldn't have parental rights because they have no right to be parents.
    then lets just empower the feds with the ability to license EVERYTHING before a citizen does it...........what say you?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    I'm good with just procreation for now.

    Citizens can do a lot of things on their own without fucking others up.

    Having kids isn't one of them.

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