Reply With QuoteGotcha68 (07-15-2018)
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Excuse me, Duke of Deviousness. Big chihuahua made the claim without backing it up: "Leftists like you ... have no problem believing there are 130 million white supremacists in the USA."Originally Posted by Legion
If I'd said that you're "a Socialist Lib that hates all Trump supporters because they are White Supremacists," you'd have a point.
Since I didn't, you don't.
As you evasively failed to acknowledge, Christiecrite, Duchess of Double-Standards, I asked if your responses to BD was motivated by your innate ineptitude.
Was it?
Answer, Christiecrite, Duchess of Double-Standards.
He made the claim and it's up to him to provide proof of that claim. Your jumping in with this nonsense..."It's really because you can't come up with one, isn't it"... doesn't absolve him from finding a link to prove his allegation. However, it doesn't mean you can't help him with the search.
The ineptitude is all on your part, Leggiecrite. Case closed.
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Gotcha68 (07-15-2018)
Catalyst
Only on a planet other than earth, Leggiecrite.
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Catalyst
Your article, O Duke of Deception, is a general article on the legality of wearing masks at public protests. Geller's article specifically states that Antifa is freaking out over a proposed law about masks. I have seen no such assertion in the NYT article stating that Antifa is freaking out.I sometimes have to remind myself that you are apparently incapable of drawing a conclusion through a reasoned deductive thought process, Christiecrite, Duchess of Double-Standards.
It's an alternative to the OP's source, O attacker of sources.
It is (being the DEMOCRAT-infested type of source you seem to prefer) what I suppose you consider a valid source for the information in the OP, Christiecrite, Duchess of Double-Standards.
Perhaps you think you have a "gotcha" here Leggiecrite, but I beg to differ.
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Gotcha68 (07-15-2018)
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Are you pretending to have read Geller's article before deciding it "stated" something that it does not actually state, Christiecrite, Duchess of Double-Standards?
"Fascists Masquerading as Anti-Fascists Complain When Their Fascism Is Unmasked
The far-left terror-type antifa organization has unleashed a wave of righteous indignation over a proposed law that would bolster penalties on those who engage in violent protests while wearing a mask or facial covering.
That’s called delicious irony. Antifa members like to parade as anti-fascist, all the while behaving like good little fascists and shuttering all dissenting speech and opinions with the likes of baseball bats and molotov cocktails. But they actually have the nerve now to decry a bill that’s aimed at stopping the fascism in the streets?
Unbelievable."
Geller then cites a Breitbart article.
The left-wing terrorist organization that calls itself Antifa is “freaking out” over a proposed law that would enhance penalties for anyone who “injures, oppresses, threatens, or intimidates any person” while wearing a disguise or mask.
Throughout our country, and for a number of years now — and primarily because the establishment media fantasizes about, promotes, enflames and approves of the violence committed against the right (naturally, HuffPo opposes the unmasking law) — Antifa has been allowed to run rampant, committing countless acts of violence against everyday, peaceful supporters of President Donald Trump.
Antifa has also been responsible for untold amounts of vandalism and property damage, and targets the alt-right.
The Unmasking Antifa Act of 2018 can mean additional fines and prison terms of up to 15 years. The Hill reports the “bill was introduced by Republican Rep. Dan Donovan (N.Y.) and is co-sponsored by GOP Reps. Pete King (R-NY), Paul Gosar (R-AZ) and Ted Budd (R-NC).”
Ironically, this proposed law is similar to laws passed decades ago in states like Georgia and Alabama to stop another terrorist group formed by far-left Democrats, the Ku Klux Klan. According to the far-left New York Times, Ohio and West Virginia already have similar laws on the books.
Unless it is Halloween, Mardi Gras, or some other kind of celebration, there is no legitimate reason to disguise who you are in public, unless you intend to do something illegal and do not wish to be identified.
And since our establishment media choose to encourage, stoke, dismiss, foment, downplay, and excuse harassment, violence and property damage against Trump supporters; since the media are normalizing and even making heroes of violent, left-wing thugs, it is important that law enforcement have all the tools necessary to stop this epidemic of lawlessness.
Nevertheless, people are still freaking out. Carmichael Monaco, a member of the Metropolitan Anarchist Coordinating Council, a New York City-based activist group, told Vice Tuesday:
[The unmasking law] takes a pro-fascist stance in its very name, and doubtlessly in its enforcement. In the current political climate, antifascists who speak out against fascism, racism, xenophobia, etc. are routinely harassed, threatened, and attacked by the far right, often supported by the police, who are notably exempted here. Families and friends of antifascists also become targets of far right violence. The wearing of a mask is an act of self-defense often necessary to ensure one’s right to free speech.
“It’s a law that threatens to clamp down on direct action politics more broadly. I think it sets a disturbing precedent,” Mark Bray, a professor at Dartmouth who studies human rights and radical politics told Vice.
https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/11/left-wing-antifa-terrorists-freaking-out-over-proposed-unmasking-law/
Breitbart, in turn, cites Vice.
Antifa Activists Are Freaking Out About a Proposed 'Unmasking' Law
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/bjb8kw/antifa-activists-are-freaking-out-about-a-proposed-unmasking-law
That's not what you claimed, is it, Christiecrite, Duchess of Double-Standards?
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And considering the numbers of Muslims worldwide, exactly how many of them are out there jihadding and killing infidels and forcefully converting everyone by your rough estimate?
Catalyst
Are you quibbling over the words "freaking out"? Sad!!Are you pretending to have read Geller's article before deciding it "stated" something that it does not actually state, Christiecrite, Duchess of Double-Standards?
"Fascists Masquerading as Anti-Fascists Complain When Their Fascism Is Unmasked
The far-left terror-type antifa organization has unleashed a wave of righteous indignation over a proposed law that would bolster penalties on those who engage in violent protests while wearing a mask or facial covering.
That’s called delicious irony. Antifa members like to parade as anti-fascist, all the while behaving like good little fascists and shuttering all dissenting speech and opinions with the likes of baseball bats and molotov cocktails. But they actually have the nerve now to decry a bill that’s aimed at stopping the fascism in the streets?
Unbelievable."
Geller then cites a Breitbart article.
The left-wing terrorist organization that calls itself Antifa is “freaking out” over a proposed law that would enhance penalties for anyone who “injures, oppresses, threatens, or intimidates any person” while wearing a disguise or mask.
Throughout our country, and for a number of years now — and primarily because the establishment media fantasizes about, promotes, enflames and approves of the violence committed against the right (naturally, HuffPo opposes the unmasking law) — Antifa has been allowed to run rampant, committing countless acts of violence against everyday, peaceful supporters of President Donald Trump.
Antifa has also been responsible for untold amounts of vandalism and property damage, and targets the alt-right.
The Unmasking Antifa Act of 2018 can mean additional fines and prison terms of up to 15 years. The Hill reports the “bill was introduced by Republican Rep. Dan Donovan (N.Y.) and is co-sponsored by GOP Reps. Pete King (R-NY), Paul Gosar (R-AZ) and Ted Budd (R-NC).”
Ironically, this proposed law is similar to laws passed decades ago in states like Georgia and Alabama to stop another terrorist group formed by far-left Democrats, the Ku Klux Klan. According to the far-left New York Times, Ohio and West Virginia already have similar laws on the books.
Unless it is Halloween, Mardi Gras, or some other kind of celebration, there is no legitimate reason to disguise who you are in public, unless you intend to do something illegal and do not wish to be identified.
And since our establishment media choose to encourage, stoke, dismiss, foment, downplay, and excuse harassment, violence and property damage against Trump supporters; since the media are normalizing and even making heroes of violent, left-wing thugs, it is important that law enforcement have all the tools necessary to stop this epidemic of lawlessness.
Nevertheless, people are still freaking out. Carmichael Monaco, a member of the Metropolitan Anarchist Coordinating Council, a New York City-based activist group, told Vice Tuesday:
[The unmasking law] takes a pro-fascist stance in its very name, and doubtlessly in its enforcement. In the current political climate, antifascists who speak out against fascism, racism, xenophobia, etc. are routinely harassed, threatened, and attacked by the far right, often supported by the police, who are notably exempted here. Families and friends of antifascists also become targets of far right violence. The wearing of a mask is an act of self-defense often necessary to ensure one’s right to free speech.
“It’s a law that threatens to clamp down on direct action politics more broadly. I think it sets a disturbing precedent,” Mark Bray, a professor at Dartmouth who studies human rights and radical politics told Vice.
https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/11/left-wing-antifa-terrorists-freaking-out-over-proposed-unmasking-law/
Breitbart, in turn, cites Vice.
Antifa Activists Are Freaking Out About a Proposed 'Unmasking' Law
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/bjb8kw/antifa-activists-are-freaking-out-about-a-proposed-unmasking-law
That's not what you claimed, is it, Christiecrite, Duchess of Double-Standards?
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At leat several million. That's just the front line troops. Those troops need support. They need money. They need supplies and basses. The total is, no doubt, in the tens of millions.
Bigdog (07-15-2018)
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Oderint dum metuant
More than enough, and more than should be tolerated, IMO.
Oderint dum metuant
Are you quibbling over the fact that I rubbished your claim? Sad!
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I live in Dearborn, 40 percent Arabs. We have no sharia law. The Muslims own businesses. They are in the US military. They are on the council, fire dept and police department. It is a peaceful; city and we don't have Muslim/Christian fighting. I do not know why people hate Muslims. My neighbors are from Iraq and they are very nice people. Why do you people hate?
christiefan915 (07-15-2018)
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Isn't Debbie Schlussel another one who lives near Dearborn and also trashes Muslims?
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Oderint dum metuant
Can you present evidence that no "leftist like you" has ever had "no problem believing there are 130 million white supremacists in the USA"?
Oderint dum metuant
Ad hominem. Attacking the source.
Oderint dum metuant
So you say, old man.
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