EPISCOPAL CHURCH VOTES TO DIVEST FROM ISRAELI HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES

[kudzu]

Seig Heil indeed.

The Episcopals supported Hitler the last time this went down, didn't they?

What? Are you crazy?

Nazi Policy and the Catholic Church


Though Hitler felt a particular urgency and hatred when dealing with Jews and Communists, he viewed the Catholic Church as a pernicious opponent, a deeply-entrenched threat that must be controlled and eventually uprooted from German life in order to establish his promised Thousand-Year-Reich.

http://www.catholiceducation.org/en/...ic-church.html


He shows clearly that, in the 1930s, the Anglican perception of Nazism as an evil ideology, and the support given to the persecuted German churches, were primary factors in interpreting the fate of the Jews. It was perhaps understandable that churchmen should come to regard Nazi totalitarianism as an anti-Christian relic of Teutonic barbarism. Such views were useful after 1939 to strengthen the moral justification for war. Secular British propaganda did the same. But leading members of the Church of England, especially Bishop George Bell of Chichester, made a distinction. They did not condemn all Germans as warmongers or racial murderers, but sought to preserve the image of the German churches, especially the Protestants, as being the victims of Nazi anti-Christian violence and oppression.

Bishop Bell led the way in claiming that there were other Germans who were resisting Nazi totalitarian ambitions, and on whom the task of rebuilding Germany would fall once Nazism was overthrown. The persecution of the Jews was thus first seen as part of the Nazis’ demonic destructiveness. There was every sympathy for these victims of the Nazi system, especially after Kristallnacht. And whereas the British government played down the Jewish persecution out of fear that they would be obliged to do something to assist them, such as opening Palestine as a haven of refuge, the Church of England led a vigorous and continuous campaign, especially in 1942 and 1943, against its own government’s narrow-mindedness.

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http://www.history.ac.uk/reviews/review/559

[Fentoine Lum]

We remember how Muslims attacked us on 9/11, we're all in favor of attacking Muslim countries. At the same time were not happy that American taxpayer dollars are being given to Israel.

Perhaps a review of some of those we have armed and partnered with is in order, for context:

Saddam
Osama
al Qaida
al Nusra
ISIS
the genocidal (Yemen) Wahabist Islamist Saudis who actually did have a role in 9/11
the genocidal Israelis (Gaza)
neonazis in Ukraine

[tsuke]

We remember how Muslims attacked us on 9/11, we're all in favor of attacking Muslim countries. At the same time were not happy that American taxpayer dollars are being given to Israel.

if we didnt have an american empire we wouldnt need to give the jews money but since we do then we do. Think of them as the nights watch. They do stuff to the wildlings that we would prefer not to.

[Minister of Truth]

Wow ! That's a biggie.

These folk are genuine Christians. Who the fuck are YOU ?

As far as I'm aware there ain't no Church of Christ the Fascist.

Real Christians whose church only exists so that Henry Tudor could divorce his first wife.

[Old Trapper]

We remember how Muslims attacked us on 9/11, we're all in favor of attacking Muslim countries. At the same time were not happy that American taxpayer dollars are being given to Israel.

18 Muslims not associated with any country, save for Saudi Arabia, and we attack Iraq, and Afghanistan, and blame all Muslims

[Fentoine Lum]

if we didnt have an american empire we wouldnt need to give the jews money but since we do then we do. Think of them as the nights watch. They do stuff to the wildlings that we would prefer not to.

We have deep ties philosophically in that we both came by our land masses via orchestrated campaigns of removal and genocide.

[Minister of Truth]

Anyway, the latest round of rocket attacks managed to strike a vacant synagogue. That should make Moony happy.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-po...ince-2014-war/

[kudzu]

18 Muslims not associated with any country, save for Saudi Arabia, and we attack Iraq, and Afghanistan, and blame all Muslims

6 of the hi-jackers used fake identification so we don't know their nationality.. But, anyone who knows anything about the Me knows that Saudi students have had the fast track to US visas since 1952.. Its far more difficult for people from other Arab states. Naturally they would apply at the US Consulate in Arabia.

[Minister of Truth]

18 Muslims not associated with any country, save for Saudi Arabia, and we attack Iraq, and Afghanistan, and blame all Muslims

We blame all Muslims because they have been attacking the West (and now, the world as a whole) for almost 1400 years.

[Fentoine Lum]

We blame all Muslims because they have been attacking the West (and now, the world as a whole) for almost 1400 years.

Oh for fuck sake.

• Israeli arms sales to Europe grew from $724M in 2014 to $1.63B in 2015
• Although the size of New Jersey Israel is one of the top 10 arms dealing nations in the world
• Israel produces 60% of all drones worldwide and sells to over 50 countries, at times selling to both sides of a given conflict, and Israel fueled the drones arms race between India and Pakistan

Palestine is an open air weapons testing and crowd control laboratory with Palestinians being used in the development phase; Gaza is a lab of mass destruction. US super bunker busters were supplied to the Israelis in 2014 and investors stock shot up; war is just business after all.

The “War in Terror” has been a boon to the industry, you’ve seen what amounts to advertisement in every “news” outlet, we are being whipped up into a frenzy once again. The industry also pioneers crowd control research on the Palestinians, and Israel is involved in the training of American forces and law enforcement. We see this in the militarization of our own police departments, Ferguson was but one example of how our system is prepping to Palestinianize our own population, and in fact Ferguson now has Israeli developed/sold skunk spray post the Ferguson events, although no incidents have yet been reported of use on American streets. It’s pretty clear that the Israeli occupation style power structure is moving toward the same in America; a warehousing of the poor in a post industrial age with diminishing living wage jobs and privatized for profit prisons complete with a return to convict leasing.

Much of the security monitoring and mass surveillance technologies are also produced in Israel and sold across the globe. “Targeted assassination” was invented in Israel, which Obama was quite fond of. Abu Ghraib torture methods? Israel.

The US and Israel are not allies. The US and Israeli arms dealers are allies, and war is the business they are both in. We are all collateral damage.

[Minister of Truth]

Oh for fuck sake.

• Israeli arms sales to Europe grew from $724M in 2014 to $1.63B in 2015
• Although the size of New Jersey Israel is one of the top 10 arms dealing nations in the world
• Israel produces 60% of all drones worldwide and sells to over 50 countries, at times selling to both sides of a given conflict, and Israel fueled the drones arms race between India and Pakistan

Palestine is an open air weapons testing and crowd control laboratory with Palestinians being used in the development phase; Gaza is a lab of mass destruction. US super bunker busters were supplied to the Israelis in 2014 and investors stock shot up; war is just business after all.

The “War in Terror” has been a boon to the industry, you’ve seen what amounts to advertisement in every “news” outlet, we are being whipped up into a frenzy once again. The industry also pioneers crowd control research on the Palestinians, and Israel is involved in the training of American forces and law enforcement. We see this in the militarization of our own police departments, Ferguson was but one example of how our system is prepping to Palestinianize our own population, and in fact Ferguson now has Israeli developed/sold skunk spray post the Ferguson events, although no incidents have yet been reported of use on American streets. It’s pretty clear that the Israeli occupation style power structure is moving toward the same in America; a warehousing of the poor in a post industrial age with diminishing living wage jobs and privatized for profit prisons complete with a return to convict leasing.

Much of the security monitoring and mass surveillance technologies are also produced in Israel and sold across the globe. “Targeted assassination” was invented in Israel, which Obama was quite fond of. Abu Ghraib torture methods? Israel.

The US and Israel are not allies. The US and Israeli arms dealers are allies, and war is the business they are both in. We are all collateral damage.

Why is Europe purchasing Israeli arms?

Anyway, drones are the aerial platform of the future. Our government gets along swimmingly with Israel's government. It's kind of like the special relationship that your beloved USSR had with North Korea, China, Cuba, Serbia, etc.

[Uncensored2008]

What? Are you crazy?

Nazi Policy and the Catholic Church


Though Hitler felt a particular urgency and hatred when dealing with Jews and Communists, he viewed the Catholic Church as a pernicious opponent, a deeply-entrenched threat that must be controlled and eventually uprooted from German life in order to establish his promised Thousand-Year-Reich.

http://www.catholiceducation.org/en/...ic-church.html


He shows clearly that, in the 1930s, the Anglican perception of Nazism as an evil ideology, and the support given to the persecuted German churches, were primary factors in interpreting the fate of the Jews. It was perhaps understandable that churchmen should come to regard Nazi totalitarianism as an anti-Christian relic of Teutonic barbarism. Such views were useful after 1939 to strengthen the moral justification for war. Secular British propaganda did the same. But leading members of the Church of England, especially Bishop George Bell of Chichester, made a distinction. They did not condemn all Germans as warmongers or racial murderers, but sought to preserve the image of the German churches, especially the Protestants, as being the victims of Nazi anti-Christian violence and oppression.

Bishop Bell led the way in claiming that there were other Germans who were resisting Nazi totalitarian ambitions, and on whom the task of rebuilding Germany would fall once Nazism was overthrown. The persecution of the Jews was thus first seen as part of the Nazis’ demonic destructiveness. There was every sympathy for these victims of the Nazi system, especially after Kristallnacht. And whereas the British government played down the Jewish persecution out of fear that they would be obliged to do something to assist them, such as opening Palestine as a haven of refuge, the Church of England led a vigorous and continuous campaign, especially in 1942 and 1943, against its own government’s narrow-mindedness.

continued

http://www.history.ac.uk/reviews/review/559

I find this FAR more compelling.

https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Pope-.../dp/014311400X

But we are speaking of the Episcopal church, who in FACT did support Hitler.

http://www.umc.org/what-we-believe/r...rt-of-eugenics

The left was and continues to be Antisemitic.

[Fentoine Lum]

Why is Europe purchasing Israeli arms?

Anyway, drones are the aerial platform of the future. Our government gets along swimmingly with Israel's government. It's kind of like the special relationship that your beloved USSR had with North Korea, China, Cuba, Serbia, etc.

Yeah sorry, I don't see how you've addressed any thing/point you're attempting to respond to. As for NK, let's visit reality.

We sold North Korea nuclear reactors a mere two years before we placed them on an “axis of evil” list. It was an utterly bipartisan affair, initiated under the Clinton administration and wrapped up under the Bush administration. Turns out we sold them these reactors from a company that Rumsfeld had once sat on the board of directors of. And Bush ponied up US taxpayer funding ($95M) to assist North Korea in wrapping up the deal, so we all helped pay for them, including you assuming you're a tax paying american.

The Guardian (UK), "The two faces of Rumsfeld", front page, 9 May 2003
[ http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/arti...952289,00.html ]

US grants N Korea nuclear funds
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1908571.stm

How Cheney and His Allies Created the North Korea Nuclear Missile Crisis
“It was not the US, but North Korea that proposed an agreement in 1998 that would end its development of new missiles as part of a broader peace agreement with Washington.”
https://truthout.org/articles/how-ch...issile-crisis/


Now of course, we must ramp up more war across the globe for the industrial ruling class.

Largest known rare earth deposit discovered in North Korea
http://www.mining.com/largest-known-...h-korea-86139/

[tsuke]

We have deep ties philosophically in that we both came by our land masses via orchestrated campaigns of removal and genocide.

true. Most empires are formed that way.

[Fentoine Lum]

I find this FAR more compelling.

https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Pope-.../dp/014311400X

But we are speaking of the Episcopal church, who in FACT did support Hitler.

http://www.umc.org/what-we-believe/r...rt-of-eugenics

The left was and continues to be Antisemitic.

"My guys are less Antisemitic than your guys, so there."