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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Do you know that Obama was doing his best to stay out of the election? Obama told Trump about it. But trump already knew. He was in contact with Russian hackers.
    Obama: "The notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them, which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration (Bush), is ridiculous."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    TRUMP NEEDS TO CANCEL THAT F'G MEETING!!
    Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    OBAMA TOLD HIM TO CUT IT OUT? What did Trump tell him? Let's see. "Okay, you didn't meddle." TRUMP NEEDS TO CANCEL THAT F'G MEETING!!
    Lie/Lame; so why does Trump need to stop talking to Putin? What would that solve? You wanna declare war?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Lie/Lame; so why does Trump need to stop talking to Putin? What would that solve? You wanna declare war?
    They’re ready to lol.

    That’s not funny, actually.
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    You wish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Wanna stay with that?
    Yup. She sucked and people prefered Trump. Russian meddling made zero diff.
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    all without the FBI examining the DNC server / interviewing Assange / complete reliance on Crowdstrike
    which has been shown to be poor at identifying Ukraine/Russian malware.

    "It's a slam dunk" (CIA Director Tenet ) as much as Iraq war was.
    I recall you downplaying the DNC hack, and siding with Trump's preposterous claims that is was probably just some fat, slovenly loser doing the hack.

    Worth noting is that your Orange Pig begged the Russians to hack the Democrats.
    Trump begged a foreign power - an adversary no less - to hack an American political party's computers.

    On July 27, 2016, then-candidate Trump made his now-infamous and very public request to hack Hillary Clinton’s email accounts: “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”
    If that is not legally treasonous, it is certainly utterly reprehensible and unamerican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Trump begged a foreign power - an adversary no less - to hack an American political party's computers.



    If that is not legally treasonous, it is certainly utterly reprehensible and unamerican.
    Nothing wrong with unamerican. My wife is unamerican. German to be exact.
    But yes, one could argue that it was reprehensible. However, there is no arguement that what was discovered in those emails was reprehensible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    Yup. She sucked and people prefered Trump. Russian meddling made zero diff.

    You're just being an uneducated deplorable again. I will agree that Clinton sucked but to say that people preferred trump is ignoring actual facts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I recall you downplaying the DNC hack, and siding with Trump's preposterous claims that is was probably just some fat, slovenly loser doing the hack.

    Worth noting is that your Orange Pig begged the Russians to hack the Democrats.
    Trump begged a foreign power - an adversary no less - to hack an American political party's computers.



    If that is not legally treasonous, it is certainly utterly reprehensible and unamerican.
    nope, your rants are almost always notorious over-reaching.

    I seriously question the DNC investigation. It was a poor job by the FBI -and to this day still relies on a
    "Russian cutout" ( some stealthy unknown figure -except it has to be Russian to fit the Deep State narrative.)

    Trump was campaigning and goofing around -if he really was colluding with Russia would he have said that? no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Why?
    First there is no purpose for the meeting other than to satisfy Trump's ego and allow him to once again meet Putin. When Trump held his beauty pageant in Moscow, all he really wanted was for Putin to come. He didn't.

    Since there is no stated diplomatic purpose of this "summit." A summit meeting (or just summit) is an international meeting of heads of state or government, usually with considerable media exposure, tight security, and a prearranged agenda. What is the agenda? I can't find one. I find lots of recommendations, but no official agenda. So, meeting won't prevent a war or anything else. And once again Trump is going into a closed door meeting with only the interpreters. No agenda, no advisers, no note takers, nothing. That alone is enough to cancel this farce.

    But, today the U.S. indicted Russian Intelligence Officers for actual involvement in the hacking the DNC and the Clinton Campaign. This can only mean it was done with the approval of Putin. And he has denied any such hacking or involvement, and Trump himself doesn't not admit that Putin/Russia was involved in any way in the election process. The indictment even says that they tried to hack voting records.

    To show his displeasure Trump can cancel this phony summit. But he agrees with Putin. You don't encourage your enemy and reward his conduct for his attacks on you. If there was a set agenda on the hacking, on Crimea, on Russian expansionism, then there might be a reason to go forward. But the real danger is that Trump will give Putin something that will harm U.S. and/or ally interests. He did it in NK, and he will do it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Lie/Lame; so why does Trump need to stop talking to Putin? What would that solve? You wanna declare war?
    Nah, we can just keep supporting neonazis in Ukraine.

    Congress Has Removed a Ban on Funding Neo-Nazis From Its Year-End Spending Bill
    Under pressure from the Pentagon, Congress has stripped the spending bill of an amendment that prevented funds from falling into the hands of Ukrainian neo-fascist groups.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/co...spending-bill/

    US is Arming Neo-Nazis in Ukraine
    https://therealnews.com/stories/max-...zis-in-ukraine

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    Hello Darth,

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    If you say so lol.

    My opinion of Strzok wasn’t much *before* I saw him on the tube. One has to be a serious Mullet Fan Boy or TDS afflicted to NOT be affected by his sneering condescension in front of congress. And this guy was over the Hillary investigation and started the Russian investigation?

    Rosenweasel and Mullet are in damage control mode. No doubt they have been holding this Russian indictment card for just such an instance.
    I do.

    It's amazing how far apart our views are. I am amazed that two people can watch the same things and get such different impressions of what is going on.

    'TDS' is a joke. It assumes President Trump is basically a good person, and those who disagree with him must be deranged or something. The problem is the basic assumption. Trump is not a good person at all. I don't know why so many have such a hard time understanding that. He was a total joke that nobody took seriously in any of his previous runs for President before he did that TV show. Then he is a hit on TV, and everybody loves him. You think a jerk is great because he is a spectacle on TV? What the heck is that all about? It suggests he could have taken Kim Kardashian as VP and done just as well with the deplorable crowd, but he wisely took a mainstream politician Pence to bring over the not-deplorable Republicans. That was a wise move. Even though he could have had 30% with Kardashian and the deplorable vote, he managed to link in the power-junky crowd and the evangelicals with Pence. Pretty slick move. And of course the one thing that made it all work was Hillary and all her political luggage. The RWPM Right Wing Propaganda Machine really had a lot of material to work with when they swiftboated HER!

    So, no, TDS does not explain all the opposition to Trump. There are simply people with values who cannot accept him under any circumstances. Many Republicans included. The #NeverTrump crowd is not explained by TDS.

    Mueller was widely accepted by both parties at his appointment to Special Counsel. Trump seems to think the way to win a legal battle is to market his side like a product being sold. He keeps putting out 'ads' via twitter, and months later we have this entire segment who now believes his 'witch hunt' BS, and now they think Mueller is a liberal.

    They are wrong, and it doesn't matter what the public thinks if it ever boils down to a court of law and a judge. If Trump committed crimes there needs to be justice. No man is above the law. Mueller is far from done. They are running a tight ship and we don't know what they have. But we can pretty well guess that since the investigation is ongoing that there will be more indictments. And it is entirely likely that future indictments will include more Americans. Maybe from the Trump family, Maybe even Trump himself.

    Nothing precludes Congress from opening subsequent investigations after Mueller is done, either. How many Benghazi investigations were there?

    Better make yourself VERY comfortable. There is no 'damage control.' This is far from done.

    You might want to get some popcorn.

    Or if you are a strong Trump supporter you may want a handkerchief and some comfort food instead.

    I'm hoping this whole Trump thing is like the last hurrah of the right wing. Sooner or later the left is taking over. The right doesn't have sustainable numbers or demographics. You guys are going to have to learn how to live with a compassionate government or go seek the elusive valley of perpetual motion machine with John Galt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patricktm View Post
    First there is no purpose for the meeting other than to satisfy Trump's ego and allow him to once again meet Putin. When Trump held his beauty pageant in Moscow, all he really wanted was for Putin to come. He didn't.

    Since there is no stated diplomatic purpose of this "summit." A summit meeting (or just summit) is an international meeting of heads of state or government, usually with considerable media exposure, tight security, and a prearranged agenda. What is the agenda? I can't find one. I find lots of recommendations, but no official agenda. So, meeting won't prevent a war or anything else. And once again Trump is going into a closed door meeting with only the interpreters. No agenda, no advisers, no note takers, nothing. That alone is enough to cancel this farce.

    But, today the U.S. indicted Russian Intelligence Officers for actual involvement in the hacking the DNC and the Clinton Campaign. This can only mean it was done with the approval of Putin. And he has denied any such hacking or involvement, and Trump himself doesn't not admit that Putin/Russia was involved in any way in the election process. The indictment even says that they tried to hack voting records.

    To show his displeasure Trump can cancel this phony summit. But he agrees with Putin. You don't encourage your enemy and reward his conduct for his attacks on you. If there was a set agenda on the hacking, on Crimea, on Russian expansionism, then there might be a reason to go forward. But the real danger is that Trump will give Putin something that will harm U.S. and/or ally interests. He did it in NK, and he will do it again.
    Translation:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    Nah, we can just keep supporting neonazis in Ukraine.

    Congress Has Removed a Ban on Funding Neo-Nazis From Its Year-End Spending Bill
    Under pressure from the Pentagon, Congress has stripped the spending bill of an amendment that prevented funds from falling into the hands of Ukrainian neo-fascist groups.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/co...spending-bill/

    US is Arming Neo-Nazis in Ukraine
    https://therealnews.com/stories/max-...zis-in-ukraine
    Translation:
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


    A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
    Author: Booker T. Washington



    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
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