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    Fact checking trump's NATO lies.

    The Claim

    Sitting down to breakfast in Brussels just before the NATO plenary session Wednesday, Trump accused NATO allies of being freeloaders:
    "Many countries owe us a tremendous amount of money from many years back, where they're delinquent as far as I'm concerned, because the United States has had to pay for them. So if you go back 10 or 20 years, you'll just add it all up, it's massive amounts of money is owed."

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    The U.S. has not been stiffed for unpaid bills by NATO allies.

    "There is no ledger that maintains accounts of what countries pay and owe," says former Obama administration National Security Council staffer Aaron O'Connell. "NATO is not like a club with annual membership fees."

    NATO members did make a commitment four years ago to spend at least 2 percent of their GDP on defense by 2024. Just nine of the military alliance's 29 members are expected to reach or surpass that target this year.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/07/11/62813...-nato-spending


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Fact checking trump's NATO lies.

    The Claim

    Sitting down to breakfast in Brussels just before the NATO plenary session Wednesday, Trump accused NATO allies of being freeloaders:
    "Many countries owe us a tremendous amount of money from many years back, where they're delinquent as far as I'm concerned, because the United States has had to pay for them. So if you go back 10 or 20 years, you'll just add it all up, it's massive amounts of money is owed."

    False


    The U.S. has not been stiffed for unpaid bills by NATO allies.

    "There is no ledger that maintains accounts of what countries pay and owe," says former Obama administration National Security Council staffer Aaron O'Connell. "NATO is not like a club with annual membership fees."

    NATO members did make a commitment four years ago to spend at least 2 percent of their GDP on defense by 2024. Just nine of the military alliance's 29 members are expected to reach or surpass that target this year.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/07/11/62813...-nato-spending
    Thanks, you beat me to it.

    There is a lot of reputable fact checkers that today are report unequivocally that Trump has been lying his ass off about NATO spending.


    Nothing, and I mean nothing Trump says about NATO can be believed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Thanks, you beat me to it.

    There is a lot of reputable fact checkers that today are report unequivocally that Trump has been lying his ass off about NATO spending.

    Nothing, and I mean nothing Trump says about NATO can be believed.
    He is so despicable! He makes me gag.


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    Thank you president Obama. After the world wide recession eased Obama pushed for this. Trump is yet again taking credit for SOMETHING that was already signed on the dotted line.

    And the DUMBASSES on this board are laping it up.

    PS. When the orange asshole calls for 4% of GDP, he's full of shit! Unless he plans to pay for it. Won't happen.
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    Bush pushed (never followed up), Obama pushed (never followed up), Trump pushed like a boss since their ways did not yield results.
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    False

    The U.S. has not been stiffed for unpaid bills by NATO allies.

    "There is no ledger that maintains accounts of what countries pay and owe," says former Obama administration National Security Council staffer Aaron O'Connell. "NATO is not like a club with annual membership fees."

    NATO members did make a commitment four years ago to spend at least 2 percent of their GDP on defense by 2024. Just nine of the military alliance's 29 members are expected to reach or surpass that target this year.
    true there is nothing like an accounts receivable for NATO - the fact is Europe hasn't all been paying their fair share.
    For Germany to still be at 1.4% is disgraceful.

    Enough of the free (discount) ride while jamming us with EU trade barriers, and reminding us of WWII .
    Time for fair deals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Bush pushed (never followed up), Obama pushed (never followed up), Trump pushed like a boss since their ways did not yield results.

    you are a liar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Thanks, you beat me to it.

    There is a lot of reputable fact checkers that today are report unequivocally that Trump has been lying his ass off about NATO spending.


    Nothing, and I mean nothing Trump says about NATO can be believed.
    If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

    I bet you still believe that lie, retard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I am not accepting the Trump boot lickers at "Fox" as a reliable news source.

    Trump, the GOP, and you - BY CHOICE - decided to embark on the most massive military buildup of this generation. At the expense of trying to cut almost everything else in the federal budget, including deferring critically necessary infrastructure upgrades and expansion.

    Massive military build up, aka arms race? Your Choice. Don't expect Trudeau or other world leaders to feel like that have to follow Dump's lead and act like a petulant, wannabe, Latin American generalissimo.
    and the whine fest continues
    at what point do you embarrass even yourself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Thank you president Obama. After the world wide recession eased Obama pushed for this. Trump is yet again taking credit for SOMETHING that was already signed on the dotted line.

    And the DUMBASSES on this board are laping it up.

    PS. When the orange asshole calls for 4% of GDP, he's full of shit! Unless he plans to pay for it. Won't happen.
    You mean like Obama took credit for ending the war in Iraq despite the plan being in place BEFORE he took office?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Thank you president Obama. After the world wide recession eased Obama pushed for this. Trump is yet again taking credit for SOMETHING that was already signed on the dotted line.

    And the DUMBASSES on this board are laping it up.

    PS. When the orange asshole calls for 4% of GDP, he's full of shit! Unless he plans to pay for it. Won't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

    I bet you still believe that lie, retard.
    you are just a sleazy racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    you are just a sleazy racist.
    Yet the black President lied to you and you still support him because he's black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Fact checking trump's NATO lies.

    The Claim

    Sitting down to breakfast in Brussels just before the NATO plenary session Wednesday, Trump accused NATO allies of being freeloaders:
    "Many countries owe us a tremendous amount of money from many years back, where they're delinquent as far as I'm concerned, because the United States has had to pay for them. So if you go back 10 or 20 years, you'll just add it all up, it's massive amounts of money is owed."

    False


    The U.S. has not been stiffed for unpaid bills by NATO allies.

    "There is no ledger that maintains accounts of what countries pay and owe," says former Obama administration National Security Council staffer Aaron O'Connell. "NATO is not like a club with annual membership fees."

    NATO members did make a commitment four years ago to spend at least 2 percent of their GDP on defense by 2024. Just nine of the military alliance's 29 members are expected to reach or surpass that target this year.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/07/11/62813...-nato-spending
    are you really this stupid ^^^ or has being triggered just caused you to spew non-sense.

    the US pays 70%+ of the total NATO budget and there are 29 countries in NATO.

    Does braindead run in your family or are you the founding father
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