Reply With QuoteHello Nordberg,
This is the TRUTH that Trump's believers must pretend is not so, in order to cling to their false, rigged, and fake 'alternative facts.'Originally Posted by Nordberg
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Hello hvilleherb,
Bad idea.
It costs approx $18,000 to incarcerate a prisoner for a year. Would you be willing to pay higher taxes to lock up everyone who crosses illegally for 20 years?
That would cost $360,000 per undocumented immigrant.
Since few people wish to pay an extra $18,000 in taxes per year, it would take 18 tax-paying Americans for every undocumented immigrant, each paying an extra $1000 per year in taxes to fund such a policy. Or it would take 36 Americans willing to pay an extra $500 per year. Or 72 Americans paying $250.
I don't want to pay an extra $250, or $500, or $1000 or $18,000 per year in taxes. I disagree with that policy idea. And I don't want the cost tacked onto the debt with interest for my grandchildren to pay, either.
How about we just schedule a hearing for them, slap a reusable ankle monitoring bracelet on them and release them until we can give them the hearing they deserve under international law that we agree to? And in the duration, anything they buy has sales tax on it so they are actually paying taxes while they are here. Which is a good argument for the Fair tax.
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Hello Nordberg,
This is the TRUTH that Trump's believers must pretend is not so, in order to cling to their false, rigged, and fake 'alternative facts.'
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If it's publicly funded there will be a line of corporatists wanting at govt money, while they decry it out the other side of their mouths.
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Get Off My Lawn
What the Sam Hell does that have to do with knowing how to operate a crane?
Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.
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Getting free labor from those convicted of crossing the border is a win-win situation. We get the wall for free and the Mexicans who build it get job training.
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Hello hvilleherb,
There is no such thing as a free lunch.
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Sure there is. We had it with the convict-lease programs.
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Hello hvilleherb,
There is a reason your idea has little support.
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It has to do with your economic system and the built in corruption, that's why we need to get this off on another rail, right?
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And corporate for profit prisons with our return to trading and profiteering on bondage and slavery. It is the corporate state's version of a jobs program. Still, Nieto's check never arrived.
Get Off My Lawn
Economic system and built in corruption? Operating a crane? I think it is you who is "off on another rail..."
Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.
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