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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
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    A “potential connection” between anthropogenic global warming and the frequency or intensity of wildfires in California has yet to emerge in the trend observations.

    Scientists have found a “lack of correlation between late summer/autumn wildfires” and “summer precipitation or temperature” in coastal California. In fact, “there is no long-term trend in the number of fires over coastal California” in the last 50 years (Mass and Ovens, 2019).

    https://journals.ametsoc.org/bams/ar...of-8-9-October
    Where's Crypiss, Doris, Croc o' Shit, Moonshi'ine and Joanie? Here is a paper from the prestigious American Meteorological Society, anything to say?
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    ' The climatological conditions preceding the fires are reviewed, including near-normal precipitation and above-normal temperatures during the summer, as well as much above-normal precipitation the previous winter, which led to abundant dry grass that provided fuel for the wind-driven fires. '
    You're such a desperate wanker, Comrade maggot. Give it up. Climate change- for the worse- is very, very evident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
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    A “potential connection” between anthropogenic global warming and the frequency or intensity of wildfires in California has yet to emerge in the trend observations.

    Scientists have found a “lack of correlation between late summer/autumn wildfires” and “summer precipitation or temperature” in coastal California. In fact, “there is no long-term trend in the number of fires over coastal California” in the last 50 years (Mass and Ovens, 2019).

    https://journals.ametsoc.org/bams/ar...of-8-9-October
    The article is quite long, I read some of it...........

    What correlations, if any, did they make??
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    You're such a desperate wanker, Comrade maggot. Give it up. Climate change- for the worse- is very, very evident.
    But is it evident in these events, that is the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    But is it evident in these events, that is the question.
    Higher temperatures and increased winter rainfall ? Good indicators. That's just drawn from the first page of Comrade maggot's link.

    All around the world the hallmarks of dramatic global warming are evident. The credibility of Deniers now exists only in their own minds based upon spurious scientific conclusions drawn from misinterpreted data and ambiguities laid like corn for geese to follow through the forest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    The article is quite long, I read some of it...........

    What correlations, if any, did they make??
    SUMMARY AND CONCLUSIONS.
    This paper describes the catastrophic fires that struck the hill country north of San Francisco during the evening and early morning hours of 8–9 October 2017. These Wine Country wildfires were some of the most costly in California history, with 44 deaths; damage to approximately 21,000 structures; the destruction of roughly 9,000 buildings; and over $10 billion of insured losses.

    The central cause of this wildfire event was the strong winds that developed during the evening of 8 October, as high pressure and cooler temperatures pushed inland across the Pacific Northwest and then southward into Nevada, resulting in a strong offshore pressure gradient and accompanying high winds. These winds, which reached 60–95 kt over and to the lee of the crests of the regional terrain, were associated with a downslope windstorm event produced by a high-amplitude mountain wave. Strong downslope winds were the result of strong flow approaching the terrain, with both a stable layer and a critical level above terrain crests. Winds developed rapidly during the evening of 8 October and weakened abruptly about 12 h later. At some locations within the wildfire area, the winds of 8–9 October were the strongest on record. It appears that most of the Wine Country fires were initiated by a failing power distribution infrastructure, with repeated attempts to reenergize lines increasing the potential for fires.

    The climatological conditions preceding the fires included near-normal precipitation and above-normal temperatures during the summer, and much above-normal precipitation the previous winter, which led to abundant dry grass that provided fuel for the wind-driven fires. Considering that a normal summer/early fall is sufficiently dry and warm to desiccate fine and larger fuels, and the lack of evidence that the frequency or strength of strong offshore winds will increase as Earth warms, it does not appear that California coastal wildfire events during the late summer and autumn have been enhanced by anthropogenic global warming. But even without a climate change component, wildfire vulnerability in the region has increased substantially during the past decades, due to rapidly growing population in the urban–wildland interface, the suppression of fire and attendant growth in fuel availability, and the spread of highly flammable, nonnative plant species.

    High-resolution modeling realistically simulated the winds associated with this event. Importantly, operational mesoscale forecast models provided excellent forecasts of the strong offshore-directed winds several days in advance, allowing the National Weather Service to provide skillful warnings of the potential for large wildfires in the Wine Country area. Skillful weather prediction offers the potential for mitigating or preventing such catastrophic wildfires, such as by evacuating vulnerable populations or by preemptively deenergizing vulnerable electrical infrastructure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    But is it evident in these events, that is the question.
    Simply put, no!

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    Comrade maggot believes that there is no pandemic, no global warming and that the Boeing 737MAX is a safe aircraft. It's in his mental well-being records.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    SUMMARY AND CONCLUSIONS.
    This paper describes the catastrophic fires that struck the hill country north of San Francisco during the evening and early morning hours of 8–9 October 2017. These Wine Country wildfires were some of the most costly in California history, with 44 deaths; damage to approximately 21,000 structures; the destruction of roughly 9,000 buildings; and over $10 billion of insured losses.

    The central cause of this wildfire event was the strong winds that developed during the evening of 8 October, as high pressure and cooler temperatures pushed inland across the Pacific Northwest and then southward into Nevada, resulting in a strong offshore pressure gradient and accompanying high winds. These winds, which reached 60–95 kt over and to the lee of the crests of the regional terrain, were associated with a downslope windstorm event produced by a high-amplitude mountain wave. Strong downslope winds were the result of strong flow approaching the terrain, with both a stable layer and a critical level above terrain crests. Winds developed rapidly during the evening of 8 October and weakened abruptly about 12 h later. At some locations within the wildfire area, the winds of 8–9 October were the strongest on record. It appears that most of the Wine Country fires were initiated by a failing power distribution infrastructure, with repeated attempts to reenergize lines increasing the potential for fires.

    The climatological conditions preceding the fires included near-normal precipitation and above-normal temperatures during the summer, and much above-normal precipitation the previous winter, which led to abundant dry grass that provided fuel for the wind-driven fires. Considering that a normal summer/early fall is sufficiently dry and warm to desiccate fine and larger fuels, and the lack of evidence that the frequency or strength of strong offshore winds will increase as Earth warms, it does not appear that California coastal wildfire events during the late summer and autumn have been enhanced by anthropogenic global warming. But even without a climate change component, wildfire vulnerability in the region has increased substantially during the past decades, due to rapidly growing population in the urban–wildland interface, the suppression of fire and attendant growth in fuel availability, and the spread of highly flammable, nonnative plant species.

    High-resolution modeling realistically simulated the winds associated with this event. Importantly, operational mesoscale forecast models provided excellent forecasts of the strong offshore-directed winds several days in advance, allowing the National Weather Service to provide skillful warnings of the potential for large wildfires in the Wine Country area. Skillful weather prediction offers the potential for mitigating or preventing such catastrophic wildfires, such as by evacuating vulnerable populations or by preemptively deenergizing vulnerable electrical infrastructure.
    That is essentially what I read of the article & agree as that is what I recall.......

    I have hiked up in that region, between Solano & Napa counties over 40 years ago & it was evident, no large trees except in canyons-Manzanita, the first to come back after fires was everywhere.. That bush/tree is alike a book of matches w/ roots........

    The problem w/ to many trees & clustered w/ houses or adjacent & if we have a drought it is bad, BUT IF WE GET RAIN, IT'S BAD AS WELL.....
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    Half a million Oregon people forced to flee, Comrade maggot. Get up there and beat out some flames with your quack ecocidal folder.

    What has this got to do with so-called 'climate change'?
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    Considering that a normal summer/early fall is sufficiently dry and warm to desiccate fine and larger fuels, and the lack of evidence that the frequency or strength of strong offshore winds will increase as Earth warms,

    What could ' as Earth warms ' mean ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    I'm not even going to bother instructing you in the sand-cleaning systems, you dumbass capitalist maggot. Fuck off and drown a refugee.
    What sand cleaning systems? Describe them or link to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Sand-blasting, eh , Comrade maggot. You truly are a fuck-wit.
    Then describe how sand cleaning works, fuck twit.
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    What has this got to do with so-called 'climate change'?
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    What sand cleaning systems? Describe them or link to them.

    Then describe how sand cleaning works, fuck twit.
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