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Thread: On His Way Out the Door, Scott Pruitt Says a Final ‘Fuck You’ to the Environment

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    we call them the Great Lakes.......
    Are they secret?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    To ignore reality is fweedumb in america.

    U.S. Drinking Water Widely Contaminated
    EPA finds 202 unregulated chemicals in 45 states


    A three-year study of the nation's drinking water quality has found more than 200 unregulated chemicals in the tap water of 45 states.

    The Environmental Working Group analysis of 20 million tap water quality tests found a total of 316 contaminants -- including industrial solvents, weed killers, refrigerants and the rocket fuel component perchlorate -- in water supplied to the public between 2004 and 2009.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ts-pollutants/

    Same as it ever was, regardless of electoral outcomes.


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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    We're ignoring the huge boost it would give to the domestic economy to hasten the development of alternatives.
    Is that so? Like Solyndra, little Thingy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    I think the Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class doesn't mind if the rest of us have poisoned water.
    That's a bullshit claim. No one wants contaminated water and claiming that the Trump administration wants that is false and a desperate tactic by liars on the left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    The Chief of Staff of the Bush admin's "Council on Environmental Quality" was a former oil industry lobbyist, who joined Exxon Mobil after he left the position.

    Make absolutely no mistake about this: Republicans are a disaster for the environment when they are in power. They do not care about the health of the planet, or about future generations.
    That's a false hysterical claim. You can only make such arguments by lying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvilleherb View Post
    Liberal Democrats still don't get it.

    While we'd prefer to have clean and and water, we also need jobs.
    The two are not exclusive of one another either. In other words, intelligent regulation protects water and air quality and incentivizes job creation. It is not a zero sum game like the loony left argue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    That's a false hysterical claim. You can only make such arguments by lying.
    Nothing false in anything I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Are they secret?
    well, you didn't know did you?......you had to ask......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    well, you didn't know did you?......you had to ask......
    What I asked (of someone else) was this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Do they have a secret supply of clean, safe water that others can't get?
    And you butted in with this:

    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    we call them the Great Lakes.......
    So, are the Great Lakes a "secret supply of clean, safe water that others can't get"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Sulphur is only one of the problems, particulates is an even bigger one. That's why it is so bloody ironic that you are railing against diesel engines, when the monsters in tankers and container ships produce many thousand fold more particulates than any landbased diesel engines.
    Yep she's gone again!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    What I asked (of someone else) was this:



    And you butted in with this:



    So, are the Great Lakes a "secret supply of clean, safe water that others can't get"?
    clean, safe, you can't have it.....apparently that was a secret.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Sulphur is only one of the problems, particulates is an even bigger one. That's why it is so bloody ironic that you are railing against diesel engines, when the monsters in tankers and container ships produce many thousand fold more particulates than any landbased diesel engines.
    Significantly less per ton of cargo transported than trucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    More hysterical bullshit from SoMad!!

    Whether it’s the ethics allegations against Pruitt or the investigations into how emissions studies were conducted, it is all distracting from the EPA’s reasoning behind the proposal to repeal emissions requirements for gliders.

    The proposed rule doesn’t cite a study for its reason to remove the requirements. Instead, the reasoning was extremely simplistic. The EPA said glider vehicles should not be defined as new vehicles. Based on that interpretation, EPA would lack authority to regulate glider vehicles, glider engines and glider kits.
    “EPA is proposing to interpret ‘“new motor vehicle’” … as not including glider vehicles,” the proposed rule stated. “This is a reasonable interpretation – and commonsense would agree – insofar as it takes account of the reality that significant elements of a glider vehicle (including the engine and transmission) are previously owned components.”


    That’s it in a nutshell. Everything else is just background noise.


    The Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs estimated in mid-May the repeal would become a final rule in May 2018. However, the proposal has seen no movement. When a decision is made, hopefully it will be based on EPA’s proposed interpretation that gliders aren’t new vehicles rather than all of the distractions surrounding Pruitt and the agency.



    https://tandemthoughts.landlinemag.c...ider-proposal/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    The Chief of Staff of the Bush admin's "Council on Environmental Quality" was a former oil industry lobbyist, who joined Exxon Mobil after he left the position.

    Make absolutely no mistake about this: Republicans are a disaster for the environment when they are in power. They do not care about the health of the planet, or about future generations.
    This means what exactly?
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    So for an owner operator who must either:

    A) give up his rig and be forced to work for a company at much lower pay

    B) purchase an entirely brand new rig at hundreds of thousands of dollars

    -or-
    C) purchase a glider kit and refitting an older powertrain at a cost savings of tens of thousands of dollars while still utilizing a perfectly good, yet older engine, transmission, and rear end, if the O/O can cut his costs somewhere, then the choice is obvious.

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