Page 1 of 21 1234511 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 305

Thread: Interesting Question: Can You Be A Strong Conservative And Support Gay Marriage?

  1. #1 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Dallas
    Posts
    671
    Thanks
    99
    Thanked 235 Times in 163 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 28 Times in 25 Posts

    Default Interesting Question: Can You Be A Strong Conservative And Support Gay Marriage?

    https://www.metroweekly.com/2018/07/...iage-platform/

    When it comes to policies that are designed to discriminate against gays -- whether its policies that allow gays to be discriminated against in housing, employment, etc -- the Republican party seems to be the main party pushing those policies.

    So when a Republican in a state as red as Idaho came out in support of gay marriage -- it makes one wonder, is that stance a true conservative stance or is it anti-conservative? Dom Gelsomino is an openly gay, devout Christian who is running for the state legislature and he believes that while Democrats are more guilty of expanding government beyond its constitutional limits, the GOP has committed the same error when it comes to same-sex marriage. Another Idaho republican also supported gay marriage by saying "We as Republicans are and need to remain the party of inclusion, less intrusive government means government has no business in licensing families."

    So I guess the question remains -- can you be a strong conservative and support gay marriage?

  2. #2 | Top
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    28,895
    Thanks
    26,655
    Thanked 14,377 Times in 9,873 Posts
    Groans
    563
    Groaned 608 Times in 575 Posts

    Default

    The federal gov't should not be involved in the marriage biz.

    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

  3. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Bigdog For This Post:

    Callinectes (07-08-2018), MAGA MAN (07-06-2018), tinfoil (07-08-2018), TrippyHippy (07-05-2018), Truth Detector (07-07-2018)

  4. #3 | Top
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Posts
    57,638
    Thanks
    563
    Thanked 10,010 Times in 8,569 Posts
    Groans
    29
    Groaned 498 Times in 487 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by rhym3pays View Post
    https://www.metroweekly.com/2018/07/...iage-platform/

    When it comes to policies that are designed to discriminate against gays -- whether its policies that allow gays to be discriminated against in housing, employment, etc -- the Republican party seems to be the main party pushing those policies.

    So when a Republican in a state as red as Idaho came out in support of gay marriage -- it makes one wonder, is that stance a true conservative stance or is it anti-conservative? Dom Gelsomino is an openly gay, devout Christian who is running for the state legislature and he believes that while Democrats are more guilty of expanding government beyond its constitutional limits, the GOP has committed the same error when it comes to same-sex marriage. Another Idaho republican also supported gay marriage by saying "We as Republicans are and need to remain the party of inclusion, less intrusive government means government has no business in licensing families."

    So I guess the question remains -- can you be a strong conservative and support gay marriage?
    According to the Constitution and what is WRITTEN in it, the federal government has no authority for the marriage business. That certain elements believe they do is because those elements have twisted themselves into a pretzel by claiming the Constitution says something it doesn't say.

  5. #4 | Top
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Location
    Hooterville by the sea
    Posts
    23,334
    Thanks
    6,344
    Thanked 16,632 Times in 11,620 Posts
    Groans
    1,236
    Groaned 513 Times in 483 Posts
    Blog Entries
    6

    Default

    Gay marriage isn't a conservative or liberal issue, but a matter of personal religious/moral convictions.

  6. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Eagle_Eye For This Post:

    J Craft (07-07-2018), Truth Detector (07-07-2018)

  7. #5 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Dallas
    Posts
    671
    Thanks
    99
    Thanked 235 Times in 163 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 28 Times in 25 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    Gay marriage isn't a conservative or liberal issue, but a matter of personal religious/moral convictions.
    2017-08-19 11.23.09.jpg

  8. #6 | Top
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Location
    Hooterville by the sea
    Posts
    23,334
    Thanks
    6,344
    Thanked 16,632 Times in 11,620 Posts
    Groans
    1,236
    Groaned 513 Times in 483 Posts
    Blog Entries
    6

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by rhym3pays View Post
    Ok I'll bite what are you trying to say?

  9. #7 | Top
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    12,526
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 8,341 Times in 5,714 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 374 Times in 355 Posts

    Default

    Of course you can, I am as "conservative" as they come.
    But I believe a person can do whatever he wants with anyone he wants as long as they are both adults.
    And they can call it marriage if they'd like.

    BUT
    They're not married, a man can not marry another man and a woman can not marry another woman. That's just silly.
    They are free to call it that, but they're not "married"
    This just In::: Trump indicted for living in liberals heads and not paying RENT

    C̶N̶N̶ SNN.... Shithole News Network

    Trump Is Coming back to a White House Near you

  10. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Getin the ring For This Post:

    Callinectes (07-08-2018), Life is Golden (07-05-2018), MAGA MAN (07-06-2018)

  11. #8 | Top
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Location
    Ask the NSA
    Posts
    862
    Thanks
    484
    Thanked 364 Times in 256 Posts
    Groans
    65
    Groaned 16 Times in 16 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    The federal gov't should not be involved in the marriage biz.

    Neither should state gov'ts for that matter. It's ludicrous we got our government involved in our personal relationships to begin with.
    “I was not born to be forced. I will breathe after my own fashion. Let us see who is the strongest.” - Henry David Thoreau


  12. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to TrippyHippy For This Post:

    Bigdog (07-05-2018), Phantasmal (07-05-2018), Truth Detector (07-07-2018)

  13. #9 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Dallas
    Posts
    671
    Thanks
    99
    Thanked 235 Times in 163 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 28 Times in 25 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    Ok I'll bite what are you trying to say?
    In most cases it has very little to do with moral conviction and more to do with just flat out bigotry/prejudice wrapped up in religious liberty -- especially since no one is pushing policies to discriminate against adulterers, fornicators -- -you know, those other sexual sins.

  14. The Following User Says Thank You to rhym3pays For This Post:

    evince (07-07-2018)

  15. #10 | Top
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Dallas
    Posts
    671
    Thanks
    99
    Thanked 235 Times in 163 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 28 Times in 25 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    Of course you can, I am as "conservative" as they come.
    But I believe a person can do whatever he wants with anyone he wants as long as they are both adults.
    And they can call it marriage if they'd like.

    BUT
    They're not married, a man can not marry another man and a woman can not marry another woman. That's just silly.
    They are free to call it that, but they're not "married"
    Should gays be fired for being gay?

    If it goes against the religious liberty of his manager or employer?

  16. The Following User Says Thank You to rhym3pays For This Post:

    evince (07-07-2018)

  17. #11 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Posts
    22,675
    Thanks
    595
    Thanked 12,388 Times in 7,999 Posts
    Groans
    16
    Groaned 809 Times in 761 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    Of course you can, I am as "conservative" as they come.
    But I believe a person can do whatever he wants with anyone he wants as long as they are both adults.
    And they can call it marriage if they'd like.

    BUT
    They're not married, a man can not marry another man and a woman can not marry another woman. That's just silly.
    They are free to call it that, but they're not "married"
    Sure they are. There are many marriages like that today - and they're definitely married.

    As for the OP, conservatives used to be in favor or liberty, so I don't see why they would oppose gay marriage.

  18. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Cancel 2020.1 For This Post:

    evince (07-07-2018), ThatOwlWoman (07-05-2018)

  19. #12 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    58,212
    Thanks
    35,762
    Thanked 50,714 Times in 27,344 Posts
    Groans
    22
    Groaned 2,977 Times in 2,694 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by rhym3pays View Post
    https://www.metroweekly.com/2018/07/...iage-platform/

    Interesting Question: Can You Be A Strong Conservative And Support Gay Marriage?

    So I guess the question remains -- can you be a strong conservative and support gay marriage?
    Talk is cheap, and a rightwinger can say anything they want on a message board.

    I make almost no distinction between rightwing Christian theocrats, and those who willfully support them.

    During my message board career I have run across copious amounts of rightwingers who professed to being kinda-sorta liberalish, to being social progressives. But to a man, they would cheer on the nomination of noted theocrat Sarah Palin, and they would be on the sidelines cheering for appalling rightwing theocrats Ted Cruz, George Dumbya, and they are the first ones leading the cheers for anti-reproductive choice, anti-gay marriage Republicans up for election, or nominated for life time jobs on the federal judiciary.

  20. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Cypress For This Post:

    evince (07-07-2018), ThatOwlWoman (07-05-2018), TTQ64 (07-06-2018)

  21. #13 | Top
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    61,597
    Thanks
    1,041
    Thanked 3,617 Times in 2,816 Posts
    Groans
    1,008
    Groaned 1,328 Times in 1,225 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    BUT
    They're not married, a man can not marry another man and a woman can not marry another woman. That's just silly.
    They are free to call it that, but they're not "married"
    can you explain why?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

  22. #14 | Top
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Posts
    12,526
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 8,341 Times in 5,714 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 374 Times in 355 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    can you explain why?
    why two men can not be married?
    that's a serious question?

    that's just silly, think how silly that is
    This just In::: Trump indicted for living in liberals heads and not paying RENT

    C̶N̶N̶ SNN.... Shithole News Network

    Trump Is Coming back to a White House Near you

  23. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Getin the ring For This Post:

    MAGA MAN (07-06-2018), Truth Detector (07-07-2018)

  24. #15 | Top
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    61,597
    Thanks
    1,041
    Thanked 3,617 Times in 2,816 Posts
    Groans
    1,008
    Groaned 1,328 Times in 1,225 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    why two men can not be married?
    that's a serious question?

    that's just silly, think how silly that is
    it is a serious question. marriage is nothing more than a contract between two people, right? so why can't two men or two women marry?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

Similar Threads

  1. Question for government strong arm enthusiasts
    By Darth Omar in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 52
    Last Post: 04-17-2018, 03:43 PM
  2. Evangellical support for jews is strong!
    By wiseones2cents in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 26
    Last Post: 05-03-2014, 10:11 AM
  3. OWS On Life Support, Tea Party Still Going Strong
    By RockX in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-09-2012, 08:31 AM
  4. Can a conservative support gay marriage?
    By Guns Guns Guns in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 11-05-2011, 08:17 AM
  5. Cypress I hope I can continue to count on your strong support!
    By GeorgeWBush in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 65
    Last Post: 12-10-2007, 08:14 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Rules

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •