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Thread: Interesting Question: Can You Be A Strong Conservative And Support Gay Marriage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhym3pays View Post
    All of your Trump comrades that "thumbs up" racist comments because it gives them the warm and fuzzies -- you tend to ignore them
    Can you cite some examples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhym3pays View Post
    Separate but equal is so 60 years ago
    Then why isn't krudzu here telling the forum what she was allegedly doing in the Sixties?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhym3pays View Post
    I don't think polygamists should be discriminated against either -- if polygamists were smart, most of them should stop being so anti-gay themselves and build a coalition -- especially if in polygamist relationships, all participants are adults and can give consent.
    We tried to tell you polygamists would be next lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    We tried to tell you polygamists would be next lol.
    So I guess you are selective with your freedom of religious expression -- if you are using that expression to deny something to gays or the "others" -- then that is just being a good Christian --- if you are using that expression in a way that doesn't hurt anyone else, like 3 women agreeing to marry one man -- then we gotta stop that or else man will marry a horse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    It's almost comically backwards to think that ALLOWING gay marriage is "tyranny."
    It’s tyranny in the sense we weren’t allowed to vote on how the government treated a societal institution.

    The legislative branch was created for that sort of thing. Civics is your friend lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    It’s tyranny in the sense we weren’t allowed to vote on how the government treated a societal institution.

    The legislative branch was created for that sort of thing. Civics is your friend lol.
    Equality under the law is a judicial concept.

    The same arguments that are made today to prevent gay marriage were made 50 years ago for interracial marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    It’s tyranny in the sense we weren’t allowed to vote on how the government treated a societal institution.

    The legislative branch was created for that sort of thing. Civics is your friend lol.
    Thingy and those that believe like him know they'd lose in the legislative arena. That's why they go judge shopping. It's much easier to find a few judges willing to play legislator than it is to go about it in the manner in which it should go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Equality under the law is a judicial concept.

    The same arguments that are made today to prevent gay marriage were made 50 years ago for interracial marriage.
    The arguments that those pushing for same sex marriage are the same ones they refuse to apply when it comes to marriages they don't think should take place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Again - many heterosexuals who marry CANNOT procreate. So, it is not a question if they "can." Many simply cannot, whether because of health, age, handicap, etc.

    What do you say to those marriages if what matters is that they "can"? I am not lying about anything. Many cannot, and that is fact. Answer the question - should their marriages be restricted?
    There's a difference between a couple being unable to procreate because of reasons they can't control (i.e. - medical, age) and being unable to procreate because they have the same parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Equality under the law is a judicial concept.

    The same arguments that are made today to prevent gay marriage were made 50 years ago for interracial marriage.
    No it isn’t.

    Interracial marriage didn’t meddle with what a marriage is: a union between a man and a woman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhym3pays View Post
    So I guess you are selective with your freedom of religious expression -- if you are using that expression to deny something to gays or the "others" -- then that is just being a good Christian --- if you are using that expression in a way that doesn't hurt anyone else, like 3 women agreeing to marry one man -- then we gotta stop that or else man will marry a horse
    Actually has nothing to do with religion.

    There are several good secular reasons not to meddle with marriage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Actually has nothing to do with religion.

    There are several good secular reasons not to meddle with marriage.
    Such as?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Actually has nothing to do with religion.

    There are several good secular reasons not to meddle with marriage.
    Could you give some examples of a non religious reason not to meddle with marriage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha68 View Post
    Could you give some examples of a non religious reason not to meddle with marriage?
    Sure lol.

    The welfare of children and of society as a whole are two.

    What do they have to do with religion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    It’s tyranny in the sense we weren’t allowed to vote on how the government treated a societal institution.

    The legislative branch was created for that sort of thing. Civics is your friend lol.
    Human rights should never be subject to the popular vote. [It's called, tyranny of the majority for a reason.]

    But it's a given that slavery and racial discrimination would still be the law of the land if the decision were based purely on the popular vote. Women wouldn't be able to vote.

    For that matter, at the time the US Supreme Court struck down the laws against interracial marriages, less than 20% of the US public believed they should be legal.

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