Trump administration gives separated parents choice

[Phantasmal]

"If you aren't a liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you aren't a conservative when you're older, you have no brain."

Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. Robert A. Heinlein
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[Irish Exit]

They want to make a living too,not just seek asylum.
Are you really this dense?

So? Just because they want something doesn't mean they have a right to take it. If they are worth having, why don't they remain in their own country and improve the conditions there?

[volsrock]

They want to make a living too,not just seek asylum.
Are you really this dense?

I "want" to drive 100mph ...

[Cypress]

[FONT="]Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. Robert A. Heinlein[/FONT]
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Thanks for this.
Words, in the hands of great writers and thinkers, can be stripped down to represent profound truths in the most elegant, economical, and lucid way possible.

Given the low education level, low mental acuity, and poor communication skills of ubiquitous internet mouth-breathers, it is little nuggets like your post that keep me wading through the detritus!

[Getin the ring]

I don't see anything wrong with this "choice"

you're here illegally, leave.
Either take your children with you or leave them here if you feel their well being is in jeopardy. We are a compassionate nation

[Irish]

And then there are cocksuckers like you who wouldn't know the truth, or tell it, if it would upset your king. Obama did not order children to be removed from their parents, and the consequences of his immigration action under ATEP were unforeseen. Your cocksucking coward POS you call President is deliberately separating families, and using the children as pawns.

If only saying it would make it so. More lies. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ion/728060002/

So you're the cocksucker that wanted Hitlery. He is YOUR POTUS, like it or not.

[Irish]

Good!

[Cancel 2019.1]

People hire Hitman to kill their spouses because of their so-called desperation.. doesn't make it right

I merely answered the question

[bhaktajan]

It's never been about what they have to offer.

Seeking asylum is about removing yourself from the area / country you feel threatened in.

Once they are in Mexico, they have escaped the problem they had.

Do you remember the Ex President of Mexico Vincente Fox endorsed and popularised this:

Manual for Mexican Migrants - Guía del Migrante Mexicano

Pub: La Secretaría de Relaciones Exteriores June 2005

INTRODUCTION

Dear Countryman:

This guide is meant to give you some practical advice that could be useful if you have made the difficult decision to seek new labor opportunities outside your country.

The safe way to enter another country is to obtain your passport from the Mexican foreign ministry, and a visa from the embassy or consulate of the country to which you wish to travel.

Still, in practice we see many cases of Mexicans who try to cross the northern border without the necessary documents, traveling through dangerous terrain, which includes deserts and rivers with strong and sometimes invisible currents.

Translation by Lupita Ramirez

http://www.banderasnews.com/0506/nr-guia01.htm

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Go to link and read. The translation is in English.

Push the NEXT to see the whole tract.

[bhaktajan]

Mexican government officials "hand out brochures showing individuals how they can avoid our Border Patrol, how they can get into our country."
— Lamar Smith on Thursday, May 20th, 2010

"You are saying that the Mexican government is passing out leaflets on how to cross the border?" Smith's reply: "They have done that in the past, on how to, of course how to be safe, and maybe how to get food and water, but also how to avoid detection."

Has Mexico really been giving its citizens advice on how to sneak into the United States without running into the Border Patrol?

In response to our inquiry, Jamie Zuieback, who works for Smith as an aide to the House Judiciary Committee, pointed us to an opinion piece that aired on National Public Radio on Jan. 27, 2005. In it, commentator Gustavo Arellano reacts to a pamphlet produced by the Mexican foreign ministry called "Guia del Migrante Mexicano," or "Guide for the Mexican Migrant." Earlier that month, The New York Times reported that about 1.5 million copies of the guide had been distributed across Mexico in December 2004.


In his commentary, Arellano said the 32-page booklet "advises Mexicans who are thinking of leaving their homeland on the best ways to do it." Arrellano noted that the publication riled some American lawmakers, who described it as a manual on how to enter the country illegally -- a position aired at the time by then-U.S. Rep. J.D. Hayworth, R-Ariz., in an opinion article published in the Jan. 9, 2005, Austin American-Statesman. (Hayworth is challenging U.S. Sen. John McCain in Arizona's 2010 Republican primary.)

Several weeks later, Francisco Alejo, who was then the Austin-based Mexican consul general, responded to Hayworth with an opinion piece in the Statesman. He wrote: "In no way does the guide promote undocumented immigration into the United States. As it is clearly stated in the guide’s introduction and on the back cover, the safe and appropriate way to enter any country -- including the United States -- is with a valid passport and visa."

Alejo said the guide was produced to advise "people of the risks involved in, as well as the legal consequences of, crossing into the United States." His article also said the Mexican government had produced similar guides in the past.
http://www.politifact.com/texas/stat...-showing-migr/

[bhaktajan]

With the tacit consent of [now Ex-] President Vicente Fox, Mexican officials in the United States and abroad interfere almost daily in U.S. sovereignty.

The meddling starts with Mexico's comic book-style guide to breaching the border safely and evading detection once across. The Foreign Ministry distributes this "Guia del Migrante Mexicano" ("Guide for the Mexican Migrant") in Mexico; consulates along the border hand it out in the United States.

The guide does briefly remind readers that "mechanisms for legal entry" into the U.S. exist and are the surest way to get in. But the book primarily consists of "practical advice" for entering illegally: Cross when the heat is lowest; don't wear heavy clothing when fording a river; do keep your coyote in sight; don't send your children across the border with strangers.

The guide's recommendations on how to avoid detection once here are equally no-nonsense: Do keep your daily routines stable, to avoid calling attention to yourself; don't engage in domestic violence — the Marvel comic-type illustration shows a macho man, biceps bulging, socking a woman in the jaw.

Consulates exist to promote the commercial interests of their nations abroad and to help nationals if they have lost passports, been robbed or fallen ill. They are not supposed to connive at breaking a host country's laws.

Assisted border-breaking is just the tip of the iceberg.

Mexican consulates, like those of other countries, have traditionally offered consular cards to their nationals for registration purposes. But after 9/11, consulates began to promote the card as a way for illegals to obtain privileges that the U.S. usually reserves for legal residents.

Consulates aggressively lobbied U.S. governmental officials and banks to accept the "matriculas consular" as valid IDs for driver's licenses, checking accounts and other privileges. Only illegals need this identification — legal aliens already have sufficient documentation to get driver's licenses or bank accounts.

The matriculas flew off the shelf — more than 4.7 million have been issued since 2000. Every day, illegals seeking matriculas swamp the consulates. Though a consulate's right to issue such a card is indisputable, Mexico is pushing the envelope when it lobbies governments to accept the card as an official ID.

Mexican consuls routinely denounce U.S. law enforcement efforts against illegal immigration as biased and inhumane. For instance, when the U.S. Border Patrol arrested a group of undocumented aliens near the San Diego consulate (en route, naturally, to pick up matriculas), the Mexican consul general objected. Mexico's Foreign Ministry said the arrests violated a "gentleman's agreement" that its consulates could carry out their duties without the presence of law enforcement — in other words, outside the ambit of U.S. law.

Back in Mexico, politicians blast any hint that U.S. legislators might obstruct illegals' free pass. In May, the U.S. Congress passed the Real ID Act, which rendered driver's licenses issued to illegal aliens inadmissible for aircraft boarding and at other federal security checkpoints. Then-Mexican Interior Minister Santiago Creel lashed out. The law, he said, is "absurd; it is not understandable in light of any criteria."

https://products.kitsapsun.com/archi...nment_und.html

[Old Trapper]

Care to show some support for your assertion, regarding Mexico?

Can't find it yourself, or are you just afraid of the truth like all right wingers?

https://www.humanrightsfirst.org/pre...untry-refugees

[Old Trapper]

If only saying it would make it so. More lies. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ion/728060002/

So you're the cocksucker that wanted Hitlery. He is YOUR POTUS, like it or not.

Unlike you with your lack of integrity, or ethics, I voted for an honest candidate, not Hillary. However, I quite well understand why you right wingers seem to feel there were only two options. Kind of like your half truth article you used for a source:

https://www.elitedaily.com/p/did-oba...erence-9488287

[USFREEDOM911]

Can't find it yourself, or are you just afraid of the truth like all right wingers?

https://www.humanrightsfirst.org/pre...untry-refugees

I will accept the fact that you can't show some support for your assertion, regarding Mexico?

[Old Trapper]

I will accept the fact that you can't show some support for your assertion, regarding Mexico?

Well, ignorance is part of the right wing DNA. Seems like they camn't live in an intelligent condition.