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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Why shouldn’t they? It’s our tax dollars too and why should our tax dollars be completely wasted on a boondoggle that couldn’t possibly work just to asuage the fears and resentments the lowest classes.

    Here’s what you knuckle heads and your idiotic insular attitudes aren’t considering;

    The Mexican Government for decades have cooperated with the US on migration. They have contributed significant military and police resources to mitigate illegal immigration into the US. Not only Mexican migrants but Mexico has stopped a tidal wave of migration from Central America to the US.

    Now because of the incompetence of the Trump administration and it’s unilateral me first and anti Mexico hostile rhetoric the Mexicans are on the verge of saying “fuck the US.”. This is their problem. If they want to be assholes about it let them deal with it.

    This is why this sort of redneck populism and unilateralism is just plain stupid. It does nothing to address the root cause of these migrations and they in fact make them worse while increasing levels of human suffering needlessly.

    So the real truth is a wall would do nothing, solve nothing, would antagonize the situation and would be a waste of tax payer money and a colossal monument to stupidity.
    The wall couldn’t possibly work lol?

    Granted, it wouldn’t be 100% effective but that’s not a realistic expectation.

    So let’s keep things real. If we really care about immigrants and their kids, we should do everything we can to disincentivize making the journey to our border. If I lived in one of the socialist utopias in Central America I’d probably try to get here too. I don’t blame them.

    But we can’t make immigration policy based on my feels.

    If there’s a better deterrent than a wall along the southern border I’d be happy to hear about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Go to east Dayton, Middletown, Hamilton, West Cincinnati and see what they have done to those areas. No single immigrant group has caused more social ills in Ohio then the poor and uneducated migrants from the Appalachian regions of Kentucky West Virginia who refuse to assimilate and propagate their Hillbilly culture.
    So you'd want a wall, and checks at the bridges? They'd have to use airports to get in then, and I don't know if hillbillies fly much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    So you'd want a wall, and checks at the bridges? They'd have to use airports to get in then, and I don't know if hillbillies fly much.
    Ever hear of Chuck Yeager lol.

    Try educating yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    bullshit, thats the very reason why he would do it
    /shrugs....isn't that exactly what I said?......he did it because of the lame stream media and the reaction of the dimwitted lib'ruls.........you reacted without reading.......not very surprising.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    /shrugs....isn't that exactly what I said?......he did it because of the lame stream media and the reaction of the dimwitted lib'ruls.........you reacted without reading.......not very surprising.......

    as usual you are confused about what you say

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    as usual you are confused about what you say
    lol......brainless dickhead......

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    as usual you are confused about what you say
    lol......brainless dickhead......
    why did he do it
    lame stream media
    that the reason he would do it
    that's what I said

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    Has anyone considered that many of these so called "parents" are trying to use the children as a means to stay in this country? I don't like separating children from family but if the parent is a known felon and must be jailed what do you do with the children?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I think the average American Worker supports a 'No Immigrants' policy. Very, very few support separating young children from their mothers. What's the purpose of that? Deport the Mother, keep the 5 year old Child here? That defies logic. Other than 'ILoveAmerica' (and possibly 'Legina') who thinks THAT is a brilliant Policy???
    No, moron, people just want the immigrants to follow the proper channels. What you have there is willful conflation. You are dishonest. Or maybe just too stupid to understand the propaganda you've fallen for. Either way, you're a dumbass for saying something so fucking stupid

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    lol......brainless dickhead......

    using opioids on a sunday? how christian of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    Has anyone considered that many of these so called "parents" are trying to use the children as a means to stay in this country? I don't like separating children from family but if the parent is a known felon and must be jailed what do you do with the children?

    try to keep up will you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    using opioids on a sunday? how christian of you.
    you couldn't sink any lower even if you started wiping your ass......

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    try to keep up will you?
    Care to answer the question or just shoot off your mouth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    gawd will you do some research?
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/t...s-of-the-world

    India and Pakistan: The two nuclear powers, with 1.5 billion people between them, have fought four wars since 1947, and continue to face each other down in Kashmir, a territory both countries dispute. In order to prevent Pakistani terrorists from striking inside India, the Indian government built a series of fences and walls to keep Pakistani terrorists at bay. Had it not, it is quite possible that the two countries might be at war right now.

    Morocco and Algeria: Morocco built a 1,700-mile system of berms, fences, and ditches to stop the Polisario Front, an Algerian-sponsored terrorist group, from infiltrating the Western Sahara. It took seven years to build, but the result was so effective that Algeria agreed to a cease-fire, ending the Western Sahara war that had raged since 1975.

    Israel and the West Bank: The Israeli border wall — well, actually more of a fence in most places — remains hugely controversial because many journalists and United Nations officials condemn anything Israel does, no matter how much precedent exists outside Israel. But, Israel’s fence reduced terror attacks by more than 90 percent, something decades of diplomacy failed to do.

    Cyprus: The irony of so many United Nations officials condemning Israel or Trump’s demands for a wall is that the United Nations itself built a wall dividing Cyprus in order to separate Turkish and Greek combatants. While Cyprus remains divided, the wall ended the fighting.

    Northern Ireland: Against the backdrop of a decades-long terror campaign by the Irish Republican Army and Unionist violence, the British and government of Northern Ireland built several so-called “Peace Lines,” fences and walls up to 25 feet tall and sometimes running for miles to separate Protestant and Catholic neighborhoods.

    Saudi Arabia and Yemen: While the Iranian-backed Houthi militia has launched missiles at Riyadh, why hasn’t it sent terrorists to conduct hit-and-run attacks in Saudi Arabia? The answer is easy. After a series of Yemeni attacks in the late 1990s, Saudi Arabia demarcated the border and built a 1,100-mile border wall.

    Saudi Arabia and Iraq: After the Islamic State steamrolled through northern Iraq, Saudi Arabia scrambled to build a 600-mile border fence and ditch system stretching from Jordan to Kuwait. It worked.

    Turkey and Syria: During the 1990s, the Syrian government supported the Kurdish insurgency inside Turkey. Turkey responded by reinforcing its border with fences and minefields. The result? Fifteen years of quiet. It was only after Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan cleared many of the mines and loosened restrictions that security declined in both countries. Today, as a result, Turkey is building a new, fortified wall stretching more than 500 miles.

    Kenya and Somalia: Over the last two years, Kenya has made good on its promise to build a barrier along its 440-mile border. It may not look like much — as between Israel and the West Bank, it is more barbed wire fence than concrete wall — but Kenyan authorities have said it has reduced infiltrations by Somali terrorists.

    Of course, not all countries utilize walls for security. Many others use walls and border fences to prevent illegal immigration.

    India and Bangladesh: Beginning in the 1980s, India began construction on almost 1,800 miles along its border with its neighbor. While India justifies the fence in its efforts to curb illegal immigration, they have also cut down cross-border crime.

    Spain and Morocco: Spain has long maintained two enclaves — Ceuta and Melilla — on the Morocco side of the Strait of Gibraltar. Both are surrounded by high fences to keep African migrants out of Spain and therefore the European Union.

    Greece and Turkey: The land border between the two countries is little more than 100 miles, but this is marked by barbed wire fences and, in places, minefields. While the mines are a vestige of military conflicts between the two countries, the European Union has been fine with them remaining to deter illegal immigration from the Middle East into Europe.

    Hungary and Serbia, Croatia: Hungary isn’t shy about justifying its border fence in its desire to prevent illegal immigration by those originating outside of Europe. Greece’s land border may be well-defended, but African and Middle Eastern migrants simply make the first leg of their journey by sea, before moving north through the Balkans. Other European states might tolerate such a flow; Hungary sees no need. After all, migrants and asylum-seekers are supposed to remain in their first country of entry, which land-locked Hungary never would be.
    Pakistan and India is your example? You want us to militarize our border?
    Leviticus 19:33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not do him wrong. 34 The stranger that sojourneth with you shall be unto you as the homeborn among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    lame stream media........

    It's worse than that, even the WSJ was in on it:

    "Trump officials are defending the policy as a deterrent to illegal entry, but surely they understand that separating parents from children is morally unacceptable and politically unsustainable."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-gop...own-1529364334

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