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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Until 1920, our borders were open to everyone. The answer to your thread title is simple.

    Asylum seekers arrive at the legal entries, and are turned away per trump's order. They are told a variety of lies, and told to 'try tomorrow'. So they sneak in at another point of entry, and become criminals.



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    Then we had an immigration pause for about 40 years.
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    If they're semi hot Russian nude models it's asylum, if they're brown skinned, or worse, black or muslim, they're vermin infesting your country. Don cleared that up long, long ago.
    Nice dodge.
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    So u agree with profiling? Making a decision based on looks
    Apparently. They want DHS to guess. And go off hunches...
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    Nice dodge.
    Who has both houses and the white house? There's your dodge pard, right there.

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    In international law, when you're life is in danger, you don't necessarily have to follow typical border protocols. If you are from a dangerous country, and you present yourself in a dangerous country, you can claim asylum there.

    People just looking for work will generally lie low, people who want asylum will generally present themselves to the authorities.
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    Also technically you can interpret the refugee treaties very narrowly, so that almost no one would be approved... Japan and South Korea do this, they honestly could care less if the person they're deporting will immediately get beheaded once they're back in the country they came from. Western judges are usually a lot more sympathetic though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    Who has both houses and the white house? There's your dodge pard, right there.
    So only the GOP can pass legislation? Its okay for Dems to do NOTHING, then claim they care about kids?
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    Apparently libs are all mind readers and know that 100% of people illegally crossing the border are seeking asylum. Therefore have not broken any laws, therefore ought to have their children stay with them.

    HOW DO YOU KNOW? Until they are processed, questioned, and proof of their asylum claims can be substantiated, you DON'T. ANYONE can lie and say they are seeking asylum, when really they are just trying to illegally enter.

    Therefore it would make sense to separate the kids until the trials/investigations are over. How do you know these kids aren't victims of sex trafficking? How do you know they are even their parents?

    I bet if they let a sex trafficed kid stay with the adult he/she was with Libs would FLIP!

    It's a new liberal trick being deployed. You can't deny anyone entrance because they MIGHT be asylum seekers! What a JOKE!


    So how about it libs, how can you tell? Are you mind readers now?
    I asked a similar question and never got a straight answer out of any of them.

    They think it’s a secret they have no ideas lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    Euros got here mostly be LEGAL immigration. The country was at a huge labor shortage so welcomed the early 20th century waves.
    Hmm. You might want to read up on "nativism".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    So only the GOP can pass legislation? Its okay for Dems to do NOTHING, then claim they care about kids?
    DEMOCRATS used their Congressional majority to pass Obamacare without a single Republican vote. They could have passed an immigration bill at the same time, but they didn't, did they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Weaboo View Post
    In international law, when you're life is in danger, you don't necessarily have to follow typical border protocols. If you are from a dangerous country, and you present yourself in a dangerous country, you can claim asylum there.


    Quote Originally Posted by The Wokest View Post
    People just looking for work will generally lie low, people who want asylum will generally present themselves to the authorities.
    Could you possibly be more incorrect in your assumptions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Weaboo View Post
    Also technically you can interpret the refugee treaties very narrowly, so that almost no one would be approved... Japan and South Korea do this, they honestly could care less if the person they're deporting will immediately get beheaded once they're back in the country they came from. Western judges are usually a lot more sympathetic though.
    There's a difference between a refugee and an asylee.

    A person who requests asylum in the United States is called an asylee. A person who requests protection while still outside the U.S., and then is given permission to enter the U.S. as a refugee, is called a refugee.

    http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/asylee-vs-refugee-application-procedural-differences.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    So only the GOP can pass legislation? Its okay for Dems to do NOTHING, then claim they care about kids?
    They don’t care about the kids or they wouldn’t be enticing their parents to take their kids on a dangerous trek where, if they are LUCKY, the worst thing that will happen is the kids are housed and FED three meals a day while their parents are detained in a separate facility.

    Let me say it again just to make myself clear. They don’t care about the kids. What they care about is beating Trump and they think this issue serves them to that end.

    They think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    Apparently libs are all mind readers and know that 100% of people illegally crossing the border are seeking asylum. Therefore have not broken any laws, therefore ought to have their children stay with them.

    HOW DO YOU KNOW? Until they are processed, questioned, and proof of their asylum claims can be substantiated, you DON'T. ANYONE can lie and say they are seeking asylum, when really they are just trying to illegally enter.

    Therefore it would make sense to separate the kids until the trials/investigations are over. How do you know these kids aren't victims of sex trafficking? How do you know they are even their parents?

    I bet if they let a sex trafficed kid stay with the adult he/she was with Libs would FLIP!

    It's a new liberal trick being deployed. You can't deny anyone entrance because they MIGHT be asylum seekers! What a JOKE!


    So how about it libs, how can you tell? Are you mind readers now?
    The best alternative is to request asylum from an officer at the point of entry.

    A person who is already in the U.S. unlawfully but has not yet been discovered and placed in removal proceedings can submit what's called an affirmative asylum application.

    If a person illegally in the US is already in removal proceedings, they can submit the application to an immigration court judge.

    Asylees have the right to remain in the U.S. indefinitely.

    They can apply for a work permit as soon as their asylum is approved, but not while they're still in the asylum application process, except in rare circumstances.

    A year after approval for asylee status, they can apply for U.S. permanent resident status (green card). Four years after that, they can apply for U.S. citizenship.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    They don’t care about the kids. What they care about is beating Trump and they think this issue serves them to that end.
    I suspect that you are correct.

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