Italy’s plan to deport Roma. Trump’s migrant children in cages. Both liberal's fault.

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The Italian government is contemplating deporting tens of thousands of Roma, or gypsies. The Trump administration put young children in cages after separating them from parents who illegally entered the United States.

Who dreamed 20 years ago that such shocking developments would take place in two apparently civilised countries? Almost no one. Not many saw this coming.

But while it's right to deplore the actions of the Italian government and the Trump administration, I suggest they are acting as they do largely because their mainstream - and sometimes Leftist - predecessors constantly ignored people's legitimate fears about uncontrolled mass immigration.


We are now reaping the whirlwind of years during which governments in the U.S. and Italy — as in most of Western Europe — failed to treat immigration as a serious issue, and in some cases took the view that the more, the merrier.

What is happening in Italy is particularly disturbing because it carries echoes of the persecution of Roma by the dictator Benito Mussolini from the late 1920s until his fall from power in 1943.

And we shouldn't forget that the Germans targeted gypsies (and Jews) with even more ruthlessness in the parts of Italy they controlled. The number of Roma murdered by the Nazis throughout Europe is disputed, but half a million is a reasonable guess.

So it's impossible not to feel deeply uneasy after the announcement by the new far-Right interior minister, Matteo Salvini, of a 'census' of Italy's large Roma community. Those found to have Italian nationality would 'unfortunately' be allowed to stay while the rest will be expelled.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...-inaction.html

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"What is happening in Italy is particularly disturbing because it carries echoes of the persecution of Roma by the dictator Benito Mussolini from the late 1920s until his fall from power in 1943.

And we shouldn't forget that the Germans targeted gypsies (and Jews) with even more ruthlessness in the parts of Italy they controlled.

The number of Roma murdered by the Nazis throughout Europe is disputed, but half a million is a reasonable guess."

I have read that Italy is undergoing a bit of a Fascist revival.

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The Italian government is contemplating deporting tens of thousands of Roma, or gypsies. The Trump administration put young children in cages after separating them from parents who illegally entered the United States.

Who dreamed 20 years ago that such shocking developments would take place in two apparently civilised countries? Almost no one. Not many saw this coming.

But while it's right to deplore the actions of the Italian government and the Trump administration, I suggest they are acting as they do largely because their mainstream - and sometimes Leftist - predecessors constantly ignored people's legitimate fears about uncontrolled mass immigration.


We are now reaping the whirlwind of years during which governments in the U.S. and Italy — as in most of Western Europe — failed to treat immigration as a serious issue, and in some cases took the view that the more, the merrier.

What is happening in Italy is particularly disturbing because it carries echoes of the persecution of Roma by the dictator Benito Mussolini from the late 1920s until his fall from power in 1943.

And we shouldn't forget that the Germans targeted gypsies (and Jews) with even more ruthlessness in the parts of Italy they controlled. The number of Roma murdered by the Nazis throughout Europe is disputed, but half a million is a reasonable guess.

So it's impossible not to feel deeply uneasy after the announcement by the new far-Right interior minister, Matteo Salvini, of a 'census' of Italy's large Roma community. Those found to have Italian nationality would 'unfortunately' be allowed to stay while the rest will be expelled.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...-inaction.html

And then there is this ...

"EXCLUSIVE - 'We don't want ANY refugees here': George Clooney's super rich Lake Como neighbours say Italian idyll is being RUINED by migrants on their doorstep after Switzerland closes its border

Wealthy locals show little sympathy for migrants gathering in Italian idyll as makeshift camps erected across Como

Lake Como has long served as tranquil paradise for the rich and famous including
Madonna and Donatella Versace

Hundreds of migrants sleeping in parks and railway station as Switzerland closes its border closed in crackdown

Residents say migrants are not welcome and will stretch resources to breaking point - and deter tourists

By NICK FAGGE IN COMO, ITALY, FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 08:13 EDT, 14 July 2016 | UPDATED: 10:17 EDT, 14 July 2016

George Clooney's wealthy neighbours in the Alpine beauty spot of Lake Como say their Italian idyll is being ruined by the influx of hundreds of migrants to a makeshift camp on their doorstep.

The picturesque area is best known as a hide-away for Clooney and a multitude of other Hollywood A-listers includ Brad Pitt, wife Angelina Jolie, and pop superstar Madonna.

But a clamp-down by Switzerland on illegal immigrants entering the country from Italy threatens to turn this chic resort into a frontier town overrun by the homeless and desperate. "

14 July 2016
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...es-border.html

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"What is happening in Italy is particularly disturbing because it carries echoes of the persecution of Roma by the dictator Benito Mussolini from the late 1920s until his fall from power in 1943.

And we shouldn't forget that the Germans targeted gypsies (and Jews) with even more ruthlessness in the parts of Italy they controlled.

The number of Roma murdered by the Nazis throughout Europe is disputed, but half a million is a reasonable guess."

I have read that Italy is undergoing a bit of a Fascist revival.

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"What is happening in Italy is particularly disturbing because it carries echoes of the persecution of Roma by the dictator Benito Mussolini from the late 1920s until his fall from power in 1943.

And we shouldn't forget that the Germans targeted gypsies (and Jews) with even more ruthlessness in the parts of Italy they controlled.

The number of Roma murdered by the Nazis throughout Europe is disputed, but half a million is a reasonable guess."

I have read that Italy is undergoing a bit of a Fascist revival.

Because people are sick and tired of so many migrants coming to Italy, they can't cope. Want to blame somebody, then blame Merkel.

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Because people are sick and tired of so many migrants coming to Italy, they can't cope. Want to blame somebody, then blame Merkel.

Actually the blame lies with Bush and Cheney... not Merkel.

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Actually the blame lies with Bush and Cheney... not Merkel.

Don't let's forget Bliar!

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"What is happening in Italy is particularly disturbing because it carries echoes of the persecution of Roma by the dictator Benito Mussolini from the late 1920s until his fall from power in 1943.

And we shouldn't forget that the Germans targeted gypsies (and Jews) with even more ruthlessness in the parts of Italy they controlled.

The number of Roma murdered by the Nazis throughout Europe is disputed, but half a million is a reasonable guess."

I have read that Italy is undergoing a bit of a Fascist revival.

And let's not forget, that at his core, Mussolini was a Socialist since childhood.


"By now, he was one of Italy's most prominent socialists. In September 1911, Mussolini participated in a riot, led by socialists, against the Italian war in Libya. He bitterly denounced Italy's "imperialist war", an action that earned him a five-month jail term.[36] After his release he helped expel from the Socialist Party two "revisionists" who had supported the war, Ivanoe Bonomi and Leonida Bissolati. As a result, he was rewarded the editorship of the Socialist Party newspaper Avanti! (Forward!) "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini

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We are now reaping the whirlwind of years during which governments in the U.S. and Italy — as in most of Western Europe — failed to treat immigration as a serious issue, and in some cases took the view that the more, the merrier.

get a tattoo of this..The leftist and the elitists are squealing about open borders essentially.
Sorry. Build the wall

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Is Tom trying to excuse America with this stuff. Here's a song.

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Actually the blame lies with Bush and Cheney... not Merkel.

I notice how you absolve Obama of blame, no surprise there.

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get a tattoo of this..The leftist and the elitists are squealing about open borders essentially.
Sorry. Build the wall

I don't know of a single person who wants open borders. The number of border patrol agents increased under Clinton, Bush and Obama.. We now have 21,000 of them.

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get a tattoo of this..The leftist and the elitists are squealing about open borders essentially.
Sorry. Build the wall

Sadly the Left will never take any responsibility for their past actions. Now the rhetoric is to blame the rise of the Right, as if that happens in a vacuum.

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I notice how you absolve Obama of blame, no surprise there.

Obama didn't start a single war.. and he certainly didn't support regime change.. You have to look to Netanyahu and the PNAC for the regime change lobbying.