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Detaining someone indefinitely is unconstitutional. It's a violation of the 14th Amendment, and the practice was struck down by the Supreme Court in Hedges v. Obama.Originally Posted by I Love America
You don't know that because you're not from here, are you? Be honest.
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He wasn't following the law because there is no law that says families should be ripped apart when they are detained while seeking asylum. That law exists nowhere and in all these posts, you haven't been able to show anywhere it does. And by signing this EO, he admitted that the policy of ripping families apart was his, not the law.
He fucked himself and the GOP because it will blow back on them in November.
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No. What the Flores settlement said and then what the courts affirmed was that unaccompanied minors could not be detained for a period of more than 20 days. Nowhere in the Flores settlement does it say that families are to be ripped apart. You're lying because you're a Nazi and Nazis lie.
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You're not upset because a) you're not even an American, so you don't care and b) you're a sociopath. Russia is full of sociopaths.
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Kind of have to be sure a group of men, women and kids are actually a family before throwing them all together. That plus the fact that most minors showed up at the border with no adults at all, so naturally all THOSE kids will be grouped together in a separate shelter.
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
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There was a program called the Intensive Supervision Appearance Program (ISAP) that kept families together and 99.8% of those in the program made their court date.
Then you Nazis stripped funding for that program and cancelled it.
So you created a problem just so you could be cruel to brown people because you're a Nazi.
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You are either lying or uninformed. Allow me to educate you as I did the other day.
The Flores settlement applied to unaccompanied minors and stated they could not be detained for more than 20 days
The 9th Circuit Court came behind that and said it also applied to ACCOMPANIED minors.
So if you support protecting our borders those two things make it impossible to not separate the families. Tough shit for you. Trump out played you guys with his EO like I said yesterday. I didn't see it at first. But I see it clearly now.
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Why not? When we funded the ISAP program, 99.8% of those in the program made their court appearance. None of them were detained.
So, the problem with you being a Russian troll is that you don't really understand how America works. Sure, your FSB officers may have briefed you on some of the basics of American law, but when it comes to the finer details, it's obvious you're just sort of gleaning info from other right-wing trolls online. When people arrive in this country seeking asylum, they have to turn themselves into the authorities. You can't declare asylum until you're in custody. What used to happen is that those people would be processed and then released via the ISAP program, in which 99.8% of those in the program made their court appearance. Depending on the judge's decision, the asylum seeker would either be granted asylum status, or deported. But prior to that court hearing, if the immigrant was enrolled in a program like ISAP, they were not detained in detention centers. They were monitored and had to check in with their case manager prior to the court date. And it was 99.8% successful, according to ICE.
Then you Nazis defunded that program and didn't have a solution other than locking people up on misdemeanor charges and tearing families apart. Why? Because you're Nazis and that's what Nazis do.
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He didn't sign the EO for the benefit of anyone but himself. And he's not a master strategist. All he did here was pull a stunt that traded one human rights abuse for another. And he did that because what he really wants to do is rip families apart because he's a Nazi, his supporters are Nazis, and that's what Nazis do.
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There is a specific process for applying for asylum. Don't follow it and you are here illegally.
It would appear that I am way more informed than you. Just the other day you were squealing "What law was Trump following" and I had to educate you about Flores and the 9th Circuit ruling.
Just admit that Trump just played you guys yesterday.
Sorry, they are not going to be released into America never to be heard from again. You lose bitch. Suck it up
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He did fight like he always does; he fights like Conservatives have fought for 40 years - create a problem, complain about the problem, half-solve it, then play the victim when praise isn't given.
We've seen this playbook many times before played by far more clever people.
Trump isn't Belicheck...he's Mornhinweig.
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He did exactly what liberals were demanding he do. It is what Chuck Schumer wanted him to do. Why are you unhappy with it?
It is tough for you. Suck it
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No liberal wanted indefinite, unconstitutional detention. You present a false choice; either rip families apart or detain them indefinitely in violation of Due Process and the 14th Amendment.
You present false choice because that's what Nazis do.
By signing the EO, Trump admitted that the policy of ripping families apart was his, and that he could do something about it. So all that time you spent saying it was the law, you were actually bullshitting us. So since you were bullshitting us about that, why should we trust in anything you say?
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No they're not. It's unconstitutional and was struck down by the courts in Hedges v. Obama.
Learn facts.
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