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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post

    Unless and until the IG looks into the FISA application, we don't know what secured the warrant.
    no. Until Congress looks at the EC, and Congress needs to see the FISA, not just the IG. (oversight)

    There are indications, however, that Page was not its main target. Foreign intelligence sources alleged that two Russian banks had chaneled money into the Trump campaign, and Page may have been involved in that.
    that would be a campaign finanace violation, but within Muellers scope if directed by the campaign- but the FISA was on Page -again let Congress see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    This is exactly how big a deal this thing is:

    If Trump was put on trial for obstruction of ‘justice’ today, there’s not a jury in the world that could convict him.
    Rosenweasel signed onto the last FISA as well..then there is Brennan.. a tangled weave of corruption

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    Last April [2016], the CIA director was shown intelligence that worried him. It was - allegedly - a tape recording of a conversation about money from the Kremlin going into the US presidential campaign.

    It was passed to the US by an intelligence agency of one of the Baltic States. The CIA cannot act domestically against American citizens so a joint counter-intelligence taskforce was created.

    The taskforce included six agencies or departments of government. Dealing with the domestic, US, side of the inquiry, were the FBI, the Department of the Treasury, and the Department of Justice. For the foreign and intelligence aspects of the investigation, there were another three agencies: the CIA, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, and the National Security Agency.

    Lawyers from the Department of Justice then drew up an application. They took it to the secret US court that deals with intelligence, the Fisa court, named after the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. They wanted permission to intercept the electronic records from two Russian banks.

    Their first application, in June, was rejected outright by the judge. They returned with a more narrowly drawn order in July and were rejected again. Finally, before a new judge, the order was granted on 15 October, three weeks before election day.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38589427


    From the same article, referring to the period just before the election:

    In a letter to FBI director Comey, Mr Reid [Senate minority leader] said: "In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and co-ordination between Donald Trump, his top advisers, and the Russian government - a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States, which Mr Trump praises at every opportunity.

    The public has a right to know this information. I wrote to you months ago calling for this information to be released to the public. There is no danger to American interests from releasing it. And yet, you continue to resist calls to inform the public of this critical information."

    Some conspiracy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    Two of America's best known cover-up artists are Mueller and Lee Hamilton.
    Why are you so into conspiracies?

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    ^ ROFL.

    The taskforce included six agencies or departments of government.
    Brennan's cabal

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    ^ ROFL.

    Brennan's cabal
    So Brennan controlled the Treasury Department as well as the DoJ and the entire IC? Was there anything he didn't control?

    Presumably you are saying that he (and they) should not have taken these reports of Russian money seriously. The normal response would have been to ignore them. Therefore, it must have been an anti-Trump conspiracy. Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seeker View Post
    So Brennan controlled the Treasury Department as well as the DoJ and the entire IC? Was there anything he didn't control?

    Presumably you are saying that he (and they) should not have taken these reports of Russian money seriously. The normal response would have been to ignore them. Therefore, it must have been an anti-Trump conspiracy. Right?
    if you are going to nit pick,ou should make a counter argument..Treasury is the only issue you have apparently -missing the meat of the story.

    I've gone over this before you got here, and am not going to waste my time recreating my posts for someone unable to rebuttal,just nitpick picayune points.

    But here: educate yourself - and if you simply impeach the source without a counter argument,
    don't look for my reply.

    https://artvoice.com/2018/03/19/form...ollusion-hoax/
    At the heart of this Obama-Clinton-Democrat -FBI-DOJ-CIA-FISA Court cabal is the originator of the Trump-Russia collusion hoax himself, the deepest deep state denizen of the bunch, former CIA Director John O. Brennan.

    As our country’s Russian Collusion Hoaxmaster General, John Brennan has good reason to be worried.

    Best known for indulging Obama’s most evil compulsions as Obama’s 2nd-term CIA chief, Brennan was just freshly-minted as an NBC “News” shill under the title “senior national security and intelligence analyst.”

    It is obvious to anyone near Brennan that he is bitter, acrimonious, hellbent on malicious retribution, and likely the Obama-Clinton coup plotter with the most to fear should President Trump, and a newly-inspired, freshly-fumigated DOJ actually perform its constitutional duty and prosecute these manipulative Obama-Clinton gangsters.

    Thanks to the unflappable courage of the House Intelligence Committee Chairman and astute, stalwart truth-seeker Devin Nunes, John Brennan’s legal jeopardy is real and the most immediate of all the Obama-Clinton sedition mechanics.

    Investigative journalist Paul Sperry broke the news last month that Nunes is initiating an investigation into Brennan’s central and leading role in promoting and leaking the “dirty dossier” in a manic effort to smear Donald Trump with any and every means at Brennan’s disposal. (Just consider the import of this proposition, given that Brennan was the DIRECTOR OF THE CIA!).

    It is almost certain that Brennan perjured himself before the House Intelligence Committee in May 2017, at minimum, when he denied knowledge of the origin of the Steele dossier and that it was in any way used in the intelligence community “assessment” that the Russians were attempting to influence the 2016 election, specifically via the Trump Campaign.

    Brennan testified that: “the information and intelligence revealed contacts and interactions between Russian officials and US persons involved in the Trump campaign that I was concerned about because of known Russian efforts to suborn such individuals. It raised questions in my mind about whether the Russians were able to gain the cooperation of such individuals.”

    When Rep. Trey Gowdy asked Brennan directly about any evidence that Trump officials colluded with the Kremlin, Brennan said “I don’t know” and “I don’t know whether such collusion existed.”

    Yet in the same response, Brennan said that there was a sufficient basis of information and intelligence that required further investigation by the FBI to determine whether or not US persons were actively conspiring or colluding with Russian officials.

    Brennan also testified that he had no knowledge of who commissioned the anti-Trump reports, although senior national security and counterintelligence officials at the DOJ knew in 2016 that the Clinton campaign had funded them.

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    Indeed, Brennan was the prime instigator behind the Russian collusion witch hunt, which grinds on despite having uncovered apparently no evidence implicating the president after more than a year of investigation. Brennan pushed the FBI to get involved, using the discredited, unverified Steele dossier as a lure. The dossier was paid for by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s campaign, but that did not matter to Brennan and his cabal. “Just because it was unverified didn’t mean it wasn’t true,” Brennan said about the dossier on Meet the Press earlier this year. The dossier served as a major justification for the FBI and the Department of Justice to apply to the FISA court for a surveillance warrant to spy on Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.

    As the Tablet reported,
    “The warrant allowed the FBI to intercept not only the communications of Page, but also anyone in contact with Page whose metadata—phone number, email, etc.—might have signaled a pattern interpreted by FBI analysts as potentially meaningful to a counterintelligence investigation. In other words, the warrant was a backdoor giving the FBI access to spy on the entire Trump campaign.”
    In trying to distance himself from the infamous Steele dossier, which played such a critical role in moving the Russian collusion investigation forward, Brennan may have committed perjury in his testimony before the House Intelligence Committee in May 2017.
    Brennan claimed that he did not know who commissioned the Steele dossier and had “no awareness” whether the FBI ever relied on the Steele dossier as part of any court filing. He also denied that the CIA had relied on the dossier. According to a report by Paul Sperry, published by RealClear Investigations on February 11, 2018,
    “Several Capitol Hill sources say Brennan, a fiercely loyal Obama appointee, talked up the dossier to Democratic leaders, as well as the press, during the campaign. They say he also fed allegations about Trump-Russia contacts directly to the FBI, while pressuring the bureau to conduct an investigation of several Trump campaign figures starting in the summer of 2016.”
    President Trump picked up on Brennan’s dissembling in his May 21st tweets, quoting Dan Bongino: “We now know that Brennan had detailed knowledge of the (phony) Dossier...he knows about the Dossier, he denies knowledge of the Dossier, he briefs the Gang of 8 on the Hill about the Dossier, which they then used to start an investigation about Trump…Brennan has disgraced himself, he’s worried about staying out of Jail.”

    John Brennan used his perch as CIA director to subvert the U.S. political system in a way that would make Vladimir Putin’s KGB and its successor, the Federal Security Service, proud. Brennan must now face the full consequences of his actions
    https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/270...e-joseph-klein

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    Treasury is the only issue you have apparently -missing the meat of the story.

    Treasury be damned. The "meat of the story" is this:

    In April 2016 - months before Steele started work - the IC had intelligence that Kremlin money might be going into the US presidential campaign. Should they have INVESTIGATED it or IGNORED it?

    Simple question, so what do you say? And FYI, demonizing Brennan is not an answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonthecat View Post
    His credentials are above reproach, apathetic hound.
    As I said before, too bad that at the twilight of his career and life he fucks it all up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seeker View Post
    Treasury be damned. The "meat of the story" is this:

    In April 2016 - months before Steele started work - the IC had intelligence that Kremlin money might be going into the US presidential campaign. Should they have INVESTIGATED it or IGNORED it?

    Simple question, so what do you say? And FYI, demonizing Brennan is not an answer.
    credible intelligence is looked at.
    That doesn't mean a full fledged investigation every time a report from 5 eyes, or lessor sources is received.

    This was a massive formal investigation rum out of headquarters, coordinated by Brennan behind the scenes
    with a questionable EC ( we haven't seen it yet)..If it was just raw intelligence it's possible even a report would not be generated. A single Report doesn't generate an investigation either. especially over a campaign finance issue

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    The notion that exceptional americans refer to other societies as shithole nations is hilarious to no end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    Racism Chihuahua evaded.
    Yes you did.
    We have the intellect to imagine the finality of our own demise but do not have the sophistication to overcome our survival instinct and accept it.
    Solution? Magical thinking and childish promises of everlasting life.
    Ergo, religion.

    rac·ist
    rāsəst/noun
    a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
    Ask yourself honestly if this describes what you believe to be true.
    If the answer is yes, you are a racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    credible intelligence is looked at.
    Well, that's what they did. Or more precisely, three months later the FBI got around to it. Is that half-cocked enough for you? And that's what you and your kind have been trying to pick holes in ever since.


    That doesn't mean a full fledged investigation every time a report from 5 eyes, or lessor sources is received.
    How do you know what intelligence they had, then or later? How serious does it have to be before they are allowed to take it seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloysious View Post
    As I said before, too bad that at the twilight of his career and life he fucks it all up.
    His report will be the shining defining moment of an illustrious career.
    We have the intellect to imagine the finality of our own demise but do not have the sophistication to overcome our survival instinct and accept it.
    Solution? Magical thinking and childish promises of everlasting life.
    Ergo, religion.

    rac·ist
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    a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
    Ask yourself honestly if this describes what you believe to be true.
    If the answer is yes, you are a racist.

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