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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    can something which is self-imposed be a "plight".....
    Certtainly. I'm very sympathetic to the plight of the poor bastards who try to escape michigan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    <applause> Well said. I hope that this issue continues to get massive negative publicity, and that it is made crystal clear that this separation of families is NOT existing law; it is a Trump Administration policy that is being used to force upon us what they want. I suspect that the majority of those who usually vote (R) are not as stupid and easily duped as the drooling Trumpanzee cretins we see here. I hope that this is true.
    I don't care about the publicity or the politics. I just someone will realize that these are actual human beings they are dealing with and not criminals to be punished or enemies to be killed. The irresponsible rhetoric that is driving these actions needs to stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    nice slam against populism..do I look sound like the uneducated masses?
    but wait - you used the term "uninformed lower classes" even worse bias.

    That is elitist claptrap, and a real reason Trump was elected- to push back on the out of touch globalists/statists
    And the reason why we're in the current unconscienable situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Lol, so much projection, so little time. You know damn well you don't believe one word of what you just posted.
    Every word of it. I understand political theory and how it works and I understand the history of populist politicians and the rhetoric they use and who their target audience is. This stuff is straight out of Machiavelli's The Prince.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Every word of it. I understand political theory and how it works and I understand the history of populist politicians and the rhetoric they use and who their target audience is. This stuff is straight out of Machiavelli's The Prince.
    Nah, I don't believe you. You are much too smart to believe that claptrap. You are simply pushing the false narrative to forward an agenda. Works great on the hive minded leftist drones, but thinking people like you and I know better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Certtainly. I'm very sympathetic to the plight of the poor bastards who try to escape michigan.
    we only leave to avoid all the ugly-american type tourists from Ohio......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    I just someone will realize that these are actual human beings they are dealing with and not criminals to be punished......
    yet they are actual human beings who are criminals waiting to be punished........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    LOL. Funny how people on the left are trying this ploy after pronouncing Christianity dead and declaring it not the basis for public policy re: gays, abortion, or anything else. Either way a True Scotsman fallacy is still a fallacy.
    LOL.

    Funny how you make up the generalization that all people on the left have pronounced Christianity dead. When did you come to that conclusion? Or did you merely wish to create your own logical fallacy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvilleherb View Post
    Protecting the Christians that are already in this country is the Christian thing to do.
    Why do they need protecting? Where is their god?

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Never heard of "The Intercept", but The Atlantic is a well known commie rag. I would no more accept their story than you would accept something from Brietbart, or The Gateway Pundit.
    "commie".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Not really. It’s an example of why most responsible politicians, including the majority of Republicans, view the populism used by Trump to appeal to the lowest classes by demonizing the poor, immigrants, ethnic/racial minorities and foreigners, for popular support as being grossly irresponsible. There is no doubt that appealing to the fears and resentments to the uninformed lower classes is a tried and true, though certainly cynical, political method to gain political support but these are the consequences of such irresponsible political behavior. Real human beings are harmed needlessly.

    As if the plight of these immigrants isn’t bad enough. This isn’t enforcement of the law. This is what tyranny looks like.

    And don’t think that tyranny can’t be turned against you if it becomes politically expedient to demonize a group you get lumped into.
    Excellent point, Mott.
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    Hello kudzu,

    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Well, Trump did say he wanted Americans to respond to him as if he were Kim Yong Un. Somebody needs to remind him daily that he's NOT a king.
    REMIND him? Heck, somebody has to EXPLAIN it to him. He totally doesn't get it.

    He has led this pampered life, and looked down on those who he considers inferior, for so long he doesn't know that it is like to be part of the masses. How can he possibly lead those he doesn't respect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    And the reason why we're in the current unconscienable situation.
    you are making an over-arching statement about populism in general because of 1 bad decision by Trump/Sessions.

    we are done with getting illegals marching across the border -largely unskilled labor that takes jobs from existing unskilled Americans.. I swear to gawd I have yet to see anyone but Hispanic roofers down here.

    And this isn't a "racist" statement.
    It's a fact illegals are taking good jobs from Americans who want to work but have no other marketable skills.
    Enough. America First.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Why do they need protecting? Where is their god?
    The same place it was on 9-11
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    Hello Getin the ring,

    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    Mott the Hoople: "Not really. It’s an example of why most responsible politicians, including the majority of Republicans, view the populism used by Trump to appeal to the lowest classes by demonizing the poor, immigrants, ethnic/racial minorities and foreigners, for popular support as being grossly irresponsible. There is no doubt that appealing to the fears and resentments to the uninformed lower classes is a tried and true, though certainly cynical, political method to gain political support but these are the consequences of such irresponsible political behavior. Real human beings are harmed needlessly.

    As if the plight of these immigrants isn’t bad enough. This isn’t enforcement of the law. This is what tyranny looks like.

    And don’t think that tyranny can’t be turned against you if it becomes politically expedient to demonize a group you get lumped into."
    that's a lot of babble for 8 oclock in the morning.

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    I give your response a score of 2 out of 100.

    No thought required. Completely lazy.

    Has nothing at all to do with Mott's very intellectual post. (and that was very good, Mott.)

    You could have made that same response to 99% of the discussions here.

    Do you have a file of generic responses you draw from?
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