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    Hello iolo,

    hvilleherb: "Protecting the Christians that are already in this country is the Christian thing to do."
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    I'm glad you care about even so tiny a minority!
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    Donald Trump’s Amen Corner: Prosperity Preachers and Dominionists

    By Peter Montgomery | May 9, 2016 3:09 pm
    While Ted Cruz had the backing of most Religious Right leaders in his now-suspended presidential campaign, Donald Trump has had his own amen corner among preachers of the God-wants-you-to-be-rich prosperity gospel, including a group who laid hands on him last fall. At that meeting, Florida-based prosperity preacher Paula White prayed that “any tongue that rises against him will be condemned according to the word of God.”

    It’s not really surprising that preachers who tout wealth as a sign of God’s favor would line up with a blustery billionaire like Trump, who says his riches are proof that he’s qualified to fix what’s wrong with the country. What is a bit more surprising is the support Trump is getting from a leading advocate of Seven Mountains dominionism, which teaches that government and other spheres of influence — “mountains” like media, entertainment, business — are meant to be run by the right kind of Christians.

    Lance Wallnau is an influential leader in the Seven Mountains movement. In 2011, he declared that it is the obligation of Christians to “seize those high places” in order to bring about the return of Jesus Christ — something he has said they should do by both “overt” and “covert” means. In 2012, he said that the mountains of government, media, and economics were currently occupied by Satan.

    Wallnau has been pushing Trump for a while now. In November he declared that God has given Trump “an anointing for the mantle of government.” But why would someone who thinks Christians with a “biblical worldview” are supposed to be running the world throw his support to Trump rather than Ted Cruz or one of the other candidates who put their faith at the center of their campaigns?

    Steve Strang, publisher of the Pentecostal Charisma Magazine, put that question to Wallnau in a recent podcast interview. Strang had been a Ted Cruz supporter, but after Cruz dropped out of the race he quickly declared that he has shifted his loyalty and support to Trump.

    “When God wants to move in history, he doesn’t always pick the favorite evangelical,” said Wallnau. He said that God brought Abraham Lincoln and Winston Churchill to power at crucial moments in history, the way He is now raising up Trump for our time. And he knows this, Wallnau said, because God told him so.


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    Donald Trump’s Amen Corner: Prosperity Preachers and Dominionists

    By Peter Montgomery | May 9, 2016 3:09 pm
    While Ted Cruz had the backing of most Religious Right leaders in his now-suspended presidential campaign, Donald Trump has had his own amen corner among preachers of the God-wants-you-to-be-rich prosperity gospel, including a group who laid hands on him last fall. At that meeting, Florida-based prosperity preacher Paula White prayed that “any tongue that rises against him will be condemned according to the word of God.”

    It’s not really surprising that preachers who tout wealth as a sign of God’s favor would line up with a blustery billionaire like Trump, who says his riches are proof that he’s qualified to fix what’s wrong with the country. What is a bit more surprising is the support Trump is getting from a leading advocate of Seven Mountains dominionism, which teaches that government and other spheres of influence — “mountains” like media, entertainment, business — are meant to be run by the right kind of Christians.

    Lance Wallnau is an influential leader in the Seven Mountains movement. In 2011, he declared that it is the obligation of Christians to “seize those high places” in order to bring about the return of Jesus Christ — something he has said they should do by both “overt” and “covert” means. In 2012, he said that the mountains of government, media, and economics were currently occupied by Satan.

    Wallnau has been pushing Trump for a while now. In November he declared that God has given Trump “an anointing for the mantle of government.” But why would someone who thinks Christians with a “biblical worldview” are supposed to be running the world throw his support to Trump rather than Ted Cruz or one of the other candidates who put their faith at the center of their campaigns?

    Steve Strang, publisher of the Pentecostal Charisma Magazine, put that question to Wallnau in a recent podcast interview. Strang had been a Ted Cruz supporter, but after Cruz dropped out of the race he quickly declared that he has shifted his loyalty and support to Trump.

    “When God wants to move in history, he doesn’t always pick the favorite evangelical,” said Wallnau. He said that God brought Abraham Lincoln and Winston Churchill to power at crucial moments in history, the way He is now raising up Trump for our time. And he knows this, Wallnau said, because God told him so.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    The surest way to make sure that your opposition will reject a bill is to put a poison pill in it. In this case, it's funding for the wall. Then when rejected, you can scream to the morons of your base "See? They don't care about the ___, they just want to play politics!"

    If I were a (D) legislator, I would negotiate publicly by saying "Okay, we will endorse the funding for the wall, but we are going to fund it by cutting an equal amount of money from ____ [pet programs of the (R)s like defense budget]."
    And the immigrant kids are being used to prevent the wall lol. It’s no big secret.

    And around we go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Donald Trump’s Amen Corner: Prosperity Preachers and Dominionists

    Steve Strang, publisher of the Pentecostal Charisma Magazine, put that question to Wallnau in a recent podcast interview. Strang had been a Ted Cruz supporter, but after Cruz dropped out of the race he quickly declared that he has shifted his loyalty and support to Trump.

    “When God wants to move in history, he doesn’t always pick the favorite evangelical,” said Wallnau. He said that God brought Abraham Lincoln and Winston Churchill to power at crucial moments in history, the way He is now raising up Trump for our time. And he knows this, Wallnau said, because God told him so.
    Trump's more of a punishment from the gods then the anointed one. lol

    Let me guess -- the "right kind of Christians" will exclude any who are perceived as having even the slightest liberal leanings, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    And the immigrant kids are being used to prevent the wall lol. It’s no big secret.

    And around we go.
    the Democratic strategy..bitch and complain and then when there is a chance to work it out -
    announce ( Shumer) that Dems won't support any legislation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Yep.

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    So idiotic, ... the poor are the lowest class.
    I know right? Trump proves that's false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Trump's more of a punishment from the gods then the anointed one. lol

    Let me guess -- the "right kind of Christians" will exclude any who are perceived as having even the slightest liberal leanings, eh?
    According to these clots Trump is a Christian because he's rich..

    Sooooo.. Jeff Bezos must be a much better Christian since he's worth $1411 billion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    According to these clots Trump is a Christian because he's rich..

    Sooooo.. Jeff Bezos must be a much better Christian since he's worth $1411 billion.
    Hahaha.... and Zuckerberg must be the Pope. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    the Democratic strategy..bitch and complain and then when there is a chance to work it out -
    announce ( Shumer) that Dems won't support any legislation
    Like I said when this thing first broke: it’s political theater.

    Never underestimate lefties cynicism. They have no desire to solve this issue anymore than they want to cure racism or what have you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Like I said when this thing first broke: it’s political theater.

    Never underestimate lefties cynicism. They have no desire to solve this issue anymore than they want to cure racism or what have you.
    Hey look. Sessions went nuts, and Trump should have seen this coming.
    No excuses. they are separating families for a misdemeanor..The optics alone are horrid.

    But the LAWS do not allow the kids to stay with parent more then 60 days,and you know how slow the immigration courts are.

    The "tell" in all this is the Shumer refusal to support reform -they'd rather keep it as a political issue then problem solve...#da resistance ass hats Dems

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    According to these clots Trump is a Christian because he's rich..

    Sooooo.. Jeff Bezos must be a much better Christian since he's worth $1411 billion.
    Someone sent me this this morning. Somehow I think you'll enjoy it as much as I did.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Like I said when this thing first broke: it’s political theater.

    Never underestimate lefties cynicism. They have no desire to solve this issue anymore than they want to cure racism or what have you.
    Denying our intentions in opposing your President's crimes against humanity does not absolve you, scuzzbag. More deflection and fail from the immoral racist piece of shit party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    Hey look. Sessions went nuts, and Trump should have seen this coming.
    No excuses. they are separating families for a misdemeanor..The optics alone are horrid.

    But the LAWS do not allow the kids to stay with parent more then 60 days,and you know how slow the immigration courts are.

    The "tell" in all this is the Shumer refusal to support reform -they'd rather keep it as a political issue then problem solve...#da resistance ass hats Dems
    The "refusal" has to do with the wall.

    So -- how would *you* propose we pay for a multi-billion dollar project like this? You willing to cut spending on defense? Or are you like Paul Eddie Muenster Ryan and want to cut social security, medicare, medicaid spending?

    And here you guys have always protrayed yourselves as deficit hawks. More like deficit hummingbirds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    Hey look. Sessions went nuts, and Trump should have seen this coming.
    No excuses. they are separating families for a misdemeanor..The optics alone are horrid.

    But the LAWS do not allow the kids to stay with parent more then 60 days,and you know how slow the immigration courts are.

    The "tell" in all this is the Shumer refusal to support reform -they'd rather keep it as a political issue then problem solve...#da resistance ass hats Dems
    Which is my main thrust.

    I’ll grant the optics are bad—but they are optics. I’ve listened to the ICE people and they tell a different story. The media are doing their usual dishonest best to keep the optics looking bad.

    Dysfunctional politics as usual.
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