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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I'm guessing the school is all black?
    (I didn't read the link, it's just a guess. Like naming streets in all black neighborhoods "Martin Luther King, Jr. Blvd')
    Yup

    And race has everything to do with it.

    But the statue stays.
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    Excellent news.

    Great idea to replace a confederate rebel named school with an all American name.

    Funny, the discussion about race.

    It was the furthest thing from my mind as I read the story.

    It's just the right thing to do.

    These people fought against the United States.

    They should not be rewarded with having public things we all share named after them. Their names belong in the history books, museums and cemeteries, not in our face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    So, schools attended by majority white kids shouldn't be named after a black person of merit?

    you are just a racist confederate apologist. Eliminating Jim Crow crap is a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    So, schools attended by majority white kids shouldn't be named after a black person of merit?
    You have always been good at twisting what is said and pulling your response out of your ass. Dismissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    I do not think color has anything to do with this. Anyway, I found this interesting. I once served upon a ship named the Jeb Stuart.
    I think you are wrong about that since the article indicates that the other folks considered were also black, and then a couple generic terms like "Northside".

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    Richmond renaming school after Obama, scrapping Confederate general's name
    Not exactly endearing themselves to Klansmen, NeoNazis, and Republicans, eh?


    I have actually always wanted to replace all the confederate rebel statues across the south, with monuments to Generals Sherman, U.S. Grant, and Harriet Tubman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    you are just a racist confederate apologist. Eliminating Jim Crow crap is a good thing.
    OK. Here's the lowdown:

    School Board Member Katzgar: Our school is named after a Confederate, we should change it.
    School Board Member Jack: That's a good idea. I second that.
    School Board Member Owl: I agree.

    School Board Member Katzgar: This school is doing poorly.
    School Board member Jack: It needs better funding.
    School Board Member Owl: True, it really is a shithole.

    School Board Member Katzgar: What if we try to figure out a way to better fund the school?
    School Board Member Jack: I agree with that, it needs better funding.
    School Board Member Owl: Hey, I got an idea, what if we re-name the school after a black person? Then, all the darkies will be up on their chairs singing and chanting' and saying 'Hallelujah' and stuff. It doesn't cost us a penny. I mean ... why piss a bunch of money away on a bunch of negroes, right?

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    Hello Cypress,

    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Not exactly endearing themselves to Klansmen, NeoNazis, and Republicans, eh?
    It's time to endear themselves to the rest of America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I have actually always wanted to replace all the confederate rebel statues across the south, with monuments to Generals Sherman, U.S. Grant, and Harriet Tubman.
    Not a bad idea.
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    Hello Cypress,

    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Achtung! I generally do not read/respond to half-witted racists, socially inept losers engaging in libel or gossip, & dunces who are just too bloody boring to waste time reading.
    Totally agree with that.

    Life is too short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    What difference does that make?
    well, it exposes the move for what it is.
    Pandering

    comical really, TRYING to erase history is such a sad thing to be reduced to because you are simply unable to move on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    OK. I read the article. It IS a black school. It sounded like some kind of 'appeasement', like re-naming streets in black neighborhoods 'Martin Luther King, Jr.'.

    Here's the other schools mentioned: "Effective July 1, 2018, A.P. Hill will be renamed Cool Spring Elementary; Robert E. Lee will be renamed Lakemont Elementary; and J.E.B. Stuart will be renamed Pleasants Lane Elementary." This is what is normally done. Naming a school for a street it's on or town it's in.
    Is naming schools after generals who lost a war against our country appeasement?

    Should we be naming schools after Cornwallis?

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    I am sooo glad I am white, this must be embarrassing for black children to have to watch their parents celebrate these ridiculous appeasement gestures
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    Hello Getin the ring,

    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    well, it exposes the move for what it is.
    Pandering

    comical really, TRYING to erase history is such a sad thing to be reduced to because you are simply unable to move on
    How does renaming a school erase history?

    It doesn't.

    Man, what a made-up SOUND BYTE.

    History is not being erased.

    History is well-recorded in books, letters, museums, stories, songs, tales, cemeteries and computer memory.

    We don't need to glorify REBELS who FOUGHT AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA for SLAVERY.

    When southern states went on a spree of naming everything after THE REBELS WHO TRIED TO BREAK UP THE UNITED STATES it was like an insolent child throwing a temper tantrum. They couldn't get their way so THEY TRIED TO REWRITE HISTORY as if the south won.

    NEWS FLASH: The SOUTH LOST.

    They are losers who were broken. They never should have fought against the UNION. They trashed the nation over NOTHING. Slavery was ABOLISHED, as it should have been. It never should have begun.

    Slavery was a BLOT ON OUR RECORD of human rights.

    History has not been erased.

    History teaches us HOW WRONG THE SOUTH WAS.

    We are never going back, and those who cling to glorifying the south are harming our nation and causing racism.

    Not only the schools, but all the highways, counties, cities, EVERYTHING named after the confederacy should be RENAMED for NICE THINGS like flowers or birds or PEACE and LOVE.

    And while we are at it, the National Anthem needs to change. It is wrong for our nation to sing praises to such violence.

    'This Land Is OUR Land' would be a FAR BETTER anthem.

    And get GOD OUT of the pledge and OFF the MONEY.

    ENOUGH!!!

    Believers are FREE TO BELIEVE anything they want, but they are OUT OF PLACE to try to make any religion part of our REPUBLIC.

    Freedom FROM religion is just as important as freedom OF religion.

    To think that the same people who kept slaves called themselves CHRISTIANS is the height of absurdities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    OK. Here's the lowdown:

    School Board Member Katzgar: Our school is named after a Confederate, we should change it.
    School Board Member Jack: That's a good idea. I second that.
    School Board Member Owl: I agree.

    School Board Member Katzgar: This school is doing poorly.
    School Board member Jack: It needs better funding.
    School Board Member Owl: True, it really is a shithole.

    School Board Member Katzgar: What if we try to figure out a way to better fund the school?
    School Board Member Jack: I agree with that, it needs better funding.
    School Board Member Owl: Hey, I got an idea, what if we re-name the school after a black person? Then, all the darkies will be up on their chairs singing and chanting' and saying 'Hallelujah' and stuff. It doesn't cost us a penny. I mean ... why piss a bunch of money away on a bunch of negroes, right?

    you drunken opioid addled trumpsters do have a hard time with reality dont you.

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