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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Then what are you doing here?
    Spreading Christianity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    Without the freedom to offend, there can be no free speech.
    I don't have to pay for a venue for you to express your beliefs. Does that make sense to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Spreading Christianity?
    It isn't working.. Its really hard to get adults to reject science and history for morality tales and myths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    It isn't working.. Its really hard to get adults to reject science and history for morality tales and myths.
    Even with his Christlike attitude and name calling? You aren’t ready to convert?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Then what are you doing here?
    making fun of you, obviously.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    It isn't working.. Its really hard to get adults to reject science and history for morality tales and myths.
    really?.....abortionists reject science at the drop of a fetus........

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    really?.....abortionists reject science at the drop of a fetus........
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    I JUST GOT OUT OF CHURCH
    its a shame you slept through it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    The need to sustain complex connections at the level of thought (not fact) through the evolution of mental abilities that are necessarily connected with developing all the metaphoric resources of language. The literal in contrast puts an end to thought. It offers the mind a way to shut down, to reify itself. It thereby exorcises the greatest fear: interpretation and its inevitable result, the conflict of interpretations and with it the terror of being forever bereft of dogmatic certitudes. A metaphor is the lighting flash of an intelligence that sees, as Aristotle asserts, connections that can only be sustained by a thought that thereby liberates itself from the immediate.

    Literalism is the attempt to arrest all of this before it takes hold. It’s innermost necessity is the resistance to metaphor. For with metaphor one enters a world that has the power to unravel the literal mind. Let me offer one example. “There is no God and Mary is his mother.” In this great aphorism Santayana asserts an ontological impossibility and a psychological necessity. I once tried it out on some fundamentalist friends. They were at first puzzled by the unintelligibility of the statement then amazed that Santayana and I were so dumb we couldn’t see the contradiction. Finally the light went on, almost in chorus, the literalist deconstruction of the statement: “If he wasn’t a God how could she be a mother?” All attempts to suggest that the statement wasn’t meant to be taken literally only produced further confusion then frustration then anger. Santayana’s statement made no sense precisely because it was a koan, a paradox intended to produce reflection, even introspection. It was there I suggested that one would find the key to its meaning; not in the assertion that its meaningless constituted evidence that Santayana was perverse or mentally unbalanced. We were, of course, talking at irretrievable cross-purposes with no way to bridge the gulf between us. Which was, of course, the point of the exercise.

    Literalism is the first line of defense of a mind that wants to put itself to sleep. A sensibility that like Nietzsche’s last man can only blink in blank incomprehension at anything that can’t be immediately understood. It is the great protection against a world teeming with complexities.



    https://www.counterpunch.org/2005/01...undamentalism/
    Your orthodoxy; their orthodoxy. What's the difference. It is like an episode of Big Bang Theory with Sheldon and Howard fighting over their little parts of science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Spreading Christianity?
    More like undermining it.
    RINO is the term for that rare Republican who puts country above party.

    Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.


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    The definition of "racist" as "anyone who is white" is itself racist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Powell
    It’s now ‘me the president’ instead of ‘we the people’

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    The need to sustain complex connections at the level of thought (not fact) through the evolution of mental abilities that are necessarily connected with developing all the metaphoric resources of language. The literal in contrast puts an end to thought. It offers the mind a way to shut down, to reify itself. It thereby exorcises the greatest fear: interpretation and its inevitable result, the conflict of interpretations and with it the terror of being forever bereft of dogmatic certitudes. A metaphor is the lighting flash of an intelligence that sees, as Aristotle asserts, connections that can only be sustained by a thought that thereby liberates itself from the immediate.

    Literalism is the attempt to arrest all of this before it takes hold. It’s innermost necessity is the resistance to metaphor. For with metaphor one enters a world that has the power to unravel the literal mind. Let me offer one example. “There is no God and Mary is his mother.” In this great aphorism Santayana asserts an ontological impossibility and a psychological necessity. I once tried it out on some fundamentalist friends. They were at first puzzled by the unintelligibility of the statement then amazed that Santayana and I were so dumb we couldn’t see the contradiction. Finally the light went on, almost in chorus, the literalist deconstruction of the statement: “If he wasn’t a God how could she be a mother?” All attempts to suggest that the statement wasn’t meant to be taken literally only produced further confusion then frustration then anger. Santayana’s statement made no sense precisely because it was a koan, a paradox intended to produce reflection, even introspection. It was there I suggested that one would find the key to its meaning; not in the assertion that its meaningless constituted evidence that Santayana was perverse or mentally unbalanced. We were, of course, talking at irretrievable cross-purposes with no way to bridge the gulf between us. Which was, of course, the point of the exercise.

    Literalism is the first line of defense of a mind that wants to put itself to sleep. A sensibility that like Nietzsche’s last man can only blink in blank incomprehension at anything that can’t be immediately understood. It is the great protection against a world teeming with complexities.



    https://www.counterpunch.org/2005/01...undamentalism/
    News flash. God hates you. It's one thing to reject God. It is something else entirely to constantly try to lead others astray. God is laughing at you. You poor fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I know, right?.....Christians are real assholes for starting threads like this one......
    Run along and dig into what real conservatives like Goldwater thought about the frothy-mouthed zealot fundamentalists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    News flash. God hates you. It's one thing to reject God. It is something else entirely to constantly try to lead others astray. God is laughing at you. You poor fool.
    sorry for your mental illness
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    Run along and dig into what real conservatives like Goldwater thought about the frothy-mouthed zealot fundamentalists.




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