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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Sure they would, in a minute, but no "reasonable solution" has surfaced yet, Republicans themselves haven't come up with a "reasonable solution" they can agree upon

    And if "actions ..... speak roundel than words" Trump could end the child separation in one minute if he really cared
    Why? He has the countries and the worlds attention. Once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krudzu View Post
    Punishing the children is Trump's wild card to get funding for his border wall.
    It is? Who told you that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    Ah, it was Sessions and Trump's decision to go with "zero tolerance" that produced the embarrassing situation now occurring not Schumer's vote for the 2002 Homeland Security Act, bad "whataboutism"
    Who's embarrassed? Trump has done nothing illegal. If DEMOCRATS don't want the law enforced, why did they vote in favor of its passage? In fact, little Adam Schiff was a co-sponsor.

    I don't recall hearing any angst from you while Obama was tearing immigrant families apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgutz View Post
    I think the point that you're too stupid to get is that the Republicans control both houses and the executive so Schumer is irrelevant and the only one that really needs to fix trumps fuckup is trump
    How come DEMOCRATS didn't change the law when they had a Congressional majority and Obama infesting the Oval office, grandpa Andrew? They rammed Obamacare through without any difficulty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    It is? Who told you that?
    He's made it real clear. What an indecent man he is.. His poor wife must be completely repulsed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Who's embarrassed? Trump has done nothing illegal. If DEMOCRATS don't want the law enforced, why did they vote in favor of its passage? In fact, little Adam Schiff was a co-sponsor.

    I don't recall hearing any angst from you while Obama was tearing immigrant families apart.




    Obama and Immigration Reform - The Atlantic



    www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/06/...
    Time and again, the Obama administration has stepped forward with a new initiative on immigration. Time and again, those efforts have encountered difficulty, and time and again the White House has thrown up its hands, said it has done all it can, and tried to move on. And each time, immigration


    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-obama/394388/

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    Quote Originally Posted by krudzu View Post
    He's made it real clear. What an indecent man he is.. His poor wife must be completely repulsed.
    So speculation impelled by animus is all you have. I thought as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krudzu View Post
    Obama and Immigration Reform
    Obama's DEMOCRAT Party had a commanding majority in Congress during his Reign of Error, as evidenced by the fact that Obamacare was passed without a single Republican vote.

    Ask yourself why the same thing wasn't possible with the immigration reforms that liberals claim to so fervently desire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    So speculation impelled by animus is all you have. I thought as much.

    Time and again, the Obama administration has stepped forward with a new initiative on immigration. Time and again, those efforts have encountered difficulty, and time and again the White House has thrown up its hands, said it has done all it can, and tried to move on. And each time, immigration ...

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-obama/394388/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    If Schumer cares so much about the "crisis" at the border, why won't he work with Republicans to fix it?


    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3...-border-crisis
    Republicans are planning to try and pass a broad draconian immigration package including the shitstained wall by holding crying children hostage, and everyone knows it, surestinksalot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krudzu View Post
    Time and again, the Obama administration has stepped forward with a new initiative on immigration. Time and again, those efforts have encountered difficulty, and time and again the White House has thrown up its hands, said it has done all it can, and tried to move on. And each time, immigration ...
    Obama's DEMOCRAT Party had a commanding majority in Congress during his Reign of Error, as evidenced by the fact that Obamacare was passed without a single Republican vote.

    What "difficulty" would have prevented DEMOCRATS from passing and Obama from signing the reforms they pretended to espouse?

    Ask yourself why getting an immigration bill into law wasn't possible with the obvious advantages DEMOCRATS held at the time.

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    Ah, America! We've gone from separating Indian babies from their parents (and then exterminating them), to stealing babies from their slave parents (and then re-selling them into slavery), to building a country on child labor (working in factories as young as 8-yrs. old), to incarcerating Japanese-American toddlers in internment camps, to allowing priests to sexually abuse children for decades, to forcing buckets of high-fructose corn syrup down kids’ throats until half of them are part of a childhood obesity epidemic, to turning our schools into killing fields because we love our guns more than we love our kids -- who the hell are we kidding? Stop being shocked and surprised that Trump is kidnapping Hispanic children from their parents as if "this isn't who we are!" Yes, it is. It has ALWAYS been who we are. Don't say Trump is violating "our American values." Abusing children IS an historic American value. Be proud, America -- Trump is us.

    Michael Moore

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Wait a minute, Trump could do it by just picking up the phone, and those two bills aren't about keeping immigrant families together, that is only a rider on a much bigger bill

    Ain't on the Democrats when Trump could end it in in two minutes

    It's way past time for Congress to earn their paychecks from the taxpayers. Let'm all engage in some give-and-take and create and pass a law.

    Unless of course the left actually does want Trump to be a dictator or a king or a Hitler with a pen. If the left does......well...may they never ever complain again when he makes other unilateral decisions.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Obama's DEMOCRAT Party had a commanding majority in Congress during his Reign of Error, as evidenced by the fact that Obamacare was passed without a single Republican vote.

    What "difficulty" would have prevented DEMOCRATS from passing and Obama from signing the reforms they pretended to espouse?

    Ask yourself why getting an immigration bill into law wasn't possible with the obvious advantages DEMOCRATS held at the time.
    Not all Democrats are liberal on immigration. All Republicans opposed everything Obama tried to do. Ergo no law.
    And thanks for the repeated all caps bold. It shows your emotion.


    Here is a good overall to remind you the answer to your backwards focus question about failure to obtain comprehensive immigration reform, and what was going on overall during President Barack Obama's
    wildly popular two terms as President and the do-nothing congress

    "But Obama Obama Obama"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha68 View Post
    Ah, America! We've gone from separating Indian babies from their parents (and then exterminating them), to stealing babies from their slave parents (and then re-selling them into slavery), to building a country on child labor (working in factories as young as 8-yrs. old), to incarcerating Japanese-American toddlers in internment camps, to allowing priests to sexually abuse children for decades, to forcing buckets of high-fructose corn syrup down kids’ throats until half of them are part of a childhood obesity epidemic, to turning our schools into killing fields because we love our guns more than we love our kids -- who the hell are we kidding? Stop being shocked and surprised that Trump is kidnapping Hispanic children from their parents as if "this isn't who we are!" Yes, it is. It has ALWAYS been who we are. Don't say Trump is violating "our American values." Abusing children IS an historic American value. Be proud, America -- Trump is us.

    Michael Moore
    All true. Still a list of the most disgusting things in US history doesn't make those things alone "who we are." It's who they are, those who did it and supported it and who support it now.
    And right now, in the final analysis, it is Republicans who support this now, just as it was bigots who supported segregation, or internment camps, or southern slave plantation farmers who used slaves
    to do all the backbreaking work for free.

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