You pulled one "example" out of your ass. The simple fact is, pally boy, that there are millions upon millions of INTACT families where one or both parents have been found guilty of misdemeanors, even felonies, and the children have not been removed from their custody.
I do note your wording: "arrests for misdemeanors CAN indeed find parents separated from their children..."It's just that they AREN'T as a matter of practice, are they?
christiefan915 (06-20-2018)
From "it never happens" to an attempt to move the bar... at least now you clearly understand that parents are separated from their children in the US when they are arrested, even for misdemeanors...
So there we have it, the time when you finally admit I was correct and that it does happen. "As a matter of practice", yes... If parents are arrested (single mother/father for instance), even for misdemeanors, or both parents together as in your example, they are separated from their children. It happens all over this nation because the parents broke the laws and were put into custody... We are not in the practice of arresting children for their parents crimes so the children go to child services, HHS if it is Federal, and often are placed with foster care if the parents are jailed for those crimes (example given earlier)...
The reality is, this is relatively normal practice to temporarily separate children from parents who are in custody, even for misdemeanors.
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Truth Detector (06-20-2018)
That it does periodically happen does not make it the standard practice, now does it, pally boy?
No matter how many times you repeat it, it is NOT a "relatively normal practice". We're not talking about a situation where a parent is jailed, pally boy. We are talking about detention where children can be detained WITH their parents as easily as being removed from their custody.
I looked up the numbers. There are 70 million people with arrest records. How many of those do you suppose have lost custody of their children?
Yes. It does. Because it is not standard practice to take children into custody. It is the standard practice when a custodial parent is arrested to separate the child from the parent.
BTW - None of these parents are "losing custody", the children are returned to the parent/s after they have been processed. They return to the country of origin with the deported parent/s.
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
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christiefan915 (06-20-2018)
Don is spending taxpayer funding on illegals. We didn't do that before Don. No federal funding went to illegals and we didn't support their kids.
Now we support their kids.
Like dogs, but still.
Which is why I support a change in that law. Pretty simple really. Parents who are being criminally prosecuted for entering the US illegally are separated from their children because they are in custody while the children are not. Because Trump has a policy where those caught crossing will be criminally prosecuted and the law actually defines the children of those being prosecuted in this fashion as "unaccompanied" these kids are temporarily separated from their parent/s while they are prosecuted.
Now, because a first offense is a misdemeanor most of these kids are returned after a short period and they and their parents are deported. Nobody is "losing custody", other than temporarily as would happen if a parent were in custody and a US citizen for a crime that they were arrested for....
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
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