Why do we separate convicted bank robbers from their children?

[Legion]

Yep. You claimed that my criticism of Obama's policy was non-existent.

I can't find any.

[Irish Exit]

And besides you, who else cares about what you want.

You raised the subject, not me.

[USFREEDOM911]

You raised the subject, not me.

I raised the subject of liberals wanting less prisons.

You brought up the subject of what you wanted.

Two separate issues.

[domer76]

Repeating something doesn't change that you are wrong. Children in the US would be given to child services if their parents were arrested for a misdemeanor, I even gave an example that you would know to be true. And if that same stupid person was convicted and sent to jail (not usual on first offenses, but sometimes and having the children in the car may be one of the circumstances that would drive that choice), the separation would be even longer.

The reality is, you just don't want to believe what you know to be true. I'm good with that, but your repeating the same nonsense again will not change reality.

Don't get me wrong, you shouldn't assume that I'm happy with this or don't want to see the law changed to allow them administrative prosecution and to stay with their kids. I'm just pointing out that arrests for misdemeanors can indeed find parents separated from their children in the US.

You pulled one "example" out of your ass. The simple fact is, pally boy, that there are millions upon millions of INTACT families where one or both parents have been found guilty of misdemeanors, even felonies, and the children have not been removed from their custody.

I do note your wording: "arrests for misdemeanors CAN indeed find parents separated from their children..."It's just that they AREN'T as a matter of practice, are they?

[Irish]

What are the chances of that legislation getting approved by a republican Congress and president?

Pretty good since Trump and Senate GOP gave them EVERYTHING they wanted on the deal.

[Micawber]

Yes; you implied it. Now you're just being a dishonest asshat.

No, the asshats are every person who dared to defend Trump in any way whatsoever, whether directly or by claiming ithers are as bad.
Shame on you. You are total scum. This is indefensible.

[Legion]

No, the asshats are every person who dared to defend Trump in any way whatsoever, whether directly or by claiming ithers are as bad. Shame on you. You are total scum. This is indefensible.

Yet you were silent when Obama separated children from their mothers and caged kids, weren't you, Mcslobber?

How dare you ignore Obama's indefensible actions and condemn the current POTUS?

[Damocles]

You pulled one "example" out of your ass. The simple fact is, pally boy, that there are millions upon millions of INTACT families where one or both parents have been found guilty of misdemeanors, even felonies, and the children have not been removed from their custody.

I do note your wording: "arrests for misdemeanors CAN indeed find parents separated from their children..."It's just that they AREN'T as a matter of practice, are they?

From "it never happens" to an attempt to move the bar... at least now you clearly understand that parents are separated from their children in the US when they are arrested, even for misdemeanors...

So there we have it, the time when you finally admit I was correct and that it does happen. "As a matter of practice", yes... If parents are arrested (single mother/father for instance), even for misdemeanors, or both parents together as in your example, they are separated from their children. It happens all over this nation because the parents broke the laws and were put into custody... We are not in the practice of arresting children for their parents crimes so the children go to child services, HHS if it is Federal, and often are placed with foster care if the parents are jailed for those crimes (example given earlier)...

The reality is, this is relatively normal practice to temporarily separate children from parents who are in custody, even for misdemeanors.

[Legion]

From "it never happens" to an attempt to move the bar... at least now you clearly understand that parents are separated from their children in the US when they are arrested, even for misdemeanors...

So there we have it, the time when you finally admit I was correct and that it does happen. "As a matter of practice", yes... If parents are arrested (single mother/father for instance), even for misdemeanors, or both parents together as in your example, they are separated from their children. It happens all over this nation because the parents broke the laws and were put into custody... We are not in the practice of arresting children for their parents crimes so the children go to child services, HHS if it is Federal, and often are placed with foster care if the parents are jailed for those crimes (example given earlier)...

The reality is, this is relatively normal practice to temporarily separate children from parents who are in custody, even for misdemeanors.

[domer76]

From "it never happens" to an attempt to move the bar... at least now you clearly understand that parents are separated from their children in the US when they are arrested, even for misdemeanors...

So there we have it, the time when you finally admit I was correct and that it does happen. "As a matter of practice", yes... If parents are arrested (single mother/father for instance), even for misdemeanors, or both parents together as in your example, they are separated from their children. It happens all over this nation because the parents broke the laws and were put into custody... We are not in the practice of arresting children for their parents crimes so the children go to child services, HHS if it is Federal, and often are placed with foster care if the parents are jailed for those crimes (example given earlier)...

The reality is, this is relatively normal practice to temporarily separate children from parents who are in custody, even for misdemeanors.

That it does periodically happen does not make it the standard practice, now does it, pally boy?

No matter how many times you repeat it, it is NOT a "relatively normal practice". We're not talking about a situation where a parent is jailed, pally boy. We are talking about detention where children can be detained WITH their parents as easily as being removed from their custody.

I looked up the numbers. There are 70 million people with arrest records. How many of those do you suppose have lost custody of their children?

[Damocles]

That it does periodically happen does not make it the standard practice, now does it, pally boy?

No matter how many times you repeat it, it is NOT a "relatively normal practice". We're not talking about a situation where a parent is jailed, pally boy. We are talking about detention where children can be detained WITH their parents as easily as being removed from their custody.

I looked up the numbers. There are 70 million people with arrest records. How many of those do you suppose have lost custody of their children?

Yes. It does. Because it is not standard practice to take children into custody. It is the standard practice when a custodial parent is arrested to separate the child from the parent.

BTW - None of these parents are "losing custody", the children are returned to the parent/s after they have been processed. They return to the country of origin with the deported parent/s.

[domer76]

Yes. It does. Because it is not standard practice to take children into custody. It is the standard practice when a custodial parent is arrested to separate the child from the parent.

BTW - None of these parents are "losing custody", the children are returned to the parent/s after they have been processed. They return to the country of origin with the deported parent/s.

This situation is not comparable to a parent arrested and put in jail. Jails, by design, are segregated facilities. There is no justifiable reason why the kids are removed from their parents during this detention.

NONE.

[Fentoine Lum]

Don is spending taxpayer funding on illegals. We didn't do that before Don. No federal funding went to illegals and we didn't support their kids.

Now we support their kids.

Like dogs, but still.

[Damocles]

This situation is not comparable to a parent arrested and put in jail. Jails, by design, are segregated facilities. There is no justifiable reason why the kids are removed from their parents during this detention.

NONE.

Which is why I support a change in that law. Pretty simple really. Parents who are being criminally prosecuted for entering the US illegally are separated from their children because they are in custody while the children are not. Because Trump has a policy where those caught crossing will be criminally prosecuted and the law actually defines the children of those being prosecuted in this fashion as "unaccompanied" these kids are temporarily separated from their parent/s while they are prosecuted.

Now, because a first offense is a misdemeanor most of these kids are returned after a short period and they and their parents are deported. Nobody is "losing custody", other than temporarily as would happen if a parent were in custody and a US citizen for a crime that they were arrested for....

[USFREEDOM911]

Nope

Groan away Christiecunt; because you earned the title once you thanked a post calling me names.

Suck it bitch.