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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Think so?
    Know so,


    "neither the Obama nor the Bush administrations systematically split up families at the border"

    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immi...grant-families

    The Trump administration has forced the separations by choosing to prosecute the parents, whose children by law can’t join them in criminal detention, Pierce said. If the parents were instead referred to civil deportation proceedings, then the children could remain with them, she said.

    Id.

    The Obama White House brainstormed ways to control the surge and discourage families from making the journey. One of those ideas was to separate parents from their children, an Obama domestic policy adviser told The New York Times.

    “I do remember looking at each other like, ‘We’re not going to do this, are we?’” said Cecilia Muñoz, the adviser. “We spent five minutes thinking it through and concluded that it was a bad idea. The morality of it was clear — that’s not who we are.”

    Supra


    Suck on it, Lesion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcslobber View Post
    Know so. The Obama White House brainstormed ways to control the surge and discourage families from making the journey. One of those ideas was to separate parents from their children, an Obama domestic policy adviser told The New York Times. “I do remember looking at each other like, ‘We’re not going to do this, are we?’” said Cecilia Muñoz, the adviser. “We spent five minutes thinking it through and concluded that it was a bad idea. The morality of it was clear — that’s not who we are.”
    So?

    It's a fact that the Obama Administration did separate immigrant parents from their children. I can post examples again if you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Lying liberal moron thinks this is about asylum.
    They also think it's about "refugees", and don't seem to understand the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    So?

    It's a fact that the Obama Administration did separate immigrant parents from their children. I can post examples again if you like.
    So everything, Lesion. Yes do post them again. If that happened, it is reprehensible and was not a policy decision. Sucks to be you, lesion troll.
    You are now, in addition to everything else, the new Korematsu party, without the security justification.

    Republican = always having to ask forgiveness. Shame on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcslobber View Post
    So everything, Lesion. Yes do post them again. If that happened, it is reprehensible and was not a policy decision.
    It may not have been a publicly-announced policy decision, yet it was something that a happened and that no JPP liberal ever mentioned, AFAIK.

    2009 New York Times - Under Age and Alone, Immigrants See a Softer Side of Detention
    2009 Reuters - U.S. immigrant detentions violate human rights: report
    2009 New York Times - After Losing Freedom, Some Immigrants Face Loss of Custody of Their Children
    2009 CNN - Study: 4 million 'illegal' immigrant children are native-born citizens
    2011 Huffington Post - Deportations Leave Behind Thousands Of Children In Foster Care
    2012 New York Times - Deporting Parents Hurts Kids
    2012 ColorLines - Nearly 205K Deportations of Parents of U.S. Citizens in Just Over Two Years
    2012 Denver Post - U.S. immigration policy splits families when parents are deported
    2014 San Diego Free Press - Immigration, Deportation, and Family Separation
    2014 Vox - What happens when deportation separates parents from their kids?
    2014 The Guardian - Orphaned by deportation: the crisis of American children left behind'2014 AZ Central - 300 more immigrant children shipped to Arizona
    2014 Huffington Post - Six Ways America Is Like a Third World Country
    2014 NBC - New Detention Facility Opened for Immigrant Families With Kids
    2014 Huffington Post - New Photos Depict Horrific Conditions At Border Detention Center
    2014 KJZZ - Media Gets First Look At Children Inside Nogales Detention Facility
    2014 Al Jazeera - Photos: Inside a detention center for migrant children
    2014 ACLU - Civil and human rights groups file administrative complaint seeking immediate agency reform
    2014 New York Times - Obama Asks for $3.7 Billion to Aid Border
    2014 CNN - Border detention of children shames America
    2014 New York Times - U.S. Moves to Stop Surge in Illegal Immigration
    2014 Migration News - Children, Obama Delays Action
    2015 Humans Rights Watch - Border Enforcement Policies Ensnare Parents of US Citizen Children
    2015 Vox - Why is the Obama administration still fighting to keep immigrant families behind bars?
    2015 New York Times Magazine - The Shame of America’s Family Detention Camps
    2015 New York Times - Judge Orders Release of Immigrant Children Detained by U.S.
    2015 Huffington Post - Pennsylvania Warns Family Immigrant Detention Center: Change Policies Or Lose Your License
    2015 Washington Post - Mexican kids held for months as punishment for border-crossing
    2015 NBC - Judge: U.S. Violates Agreement in Detention of Immigrant Children
    2015 Miami Herald - Obama’s immigration detention policies hurt mothers, children
    2015 Huffington Post - Children Send Christmas Wishes To Kids In Immigrant Detention

    Happy reading.

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    As I suspected. You have nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    Shit! We'd have this place crawling with unwanted people in the same manner in which we came here!
    You make even less sense in the morning. Are you a day power drinker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post

    Undocumented migrants aren't violent felons like bank robbers..
    Many of them are. Mexico is trying to dump all their criminals and poor people on america.
    Reckless drivers are a bigger threat to you than all other criminals put together!

    THE BIG LIE - Blacks and whites are different physically but identical mentally!

    There is no way 81 million americans voted for a man they know is a child molester w dementia. Impeach Joe the Pedophile Vegetable (JPV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    Why don't DIMOcrats pass legislation if they don't like it. Rather that obstructing then hiding. All disgusting pigs.
    What are the chances of that legislation getting approved by a republican Congress and president?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Didn't Obama promise executive action in 2014 and then postpone it because of pressure from DEMOCRATS facing reelection? It seems they feared the fallout they might get from the voters if he kept his promise, IIRC.
    You're awfully reliant on whataboutism to counter the arguments against trump.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    What are the chances of that legislation getting approved by a republican Congress and president?
    You don't seem inclined to ponder the odds Obama possessed when he had a DEMOCRAT majority in Congress, yet failed to produce any reforms except via Executive Order.

    You remember that. It enabled him to sign Obamacare into law without a single Republican vote in favor.

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    The issue that is the current event is the ripping apart of babies and very young kids from moms at the border, known by virtue of viral video,
    and Trump's action and reaction to it (and that of his spin doctors and mouth pieces)

    The discussion can certainly be enlarged to immigration enforcement all over, but that is beyond the scope of the current event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JarredHead View Post
    I see a difference between a bank robber and a family trying to escape violence, hunger and forced prostitution.
    That's not what is actually happening though. What we have is a liberal dogma in this country that encourages illegal behavior and the notion that one can fabricate that they are in need of asylum so that the Democratic Party of the Jackass can find more low information uneducated constituents.

    It's not fooling most Americans and this will be reflected in the midterms I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JarredHead View Post
    Yes, but not one that should result in putting children in jails.
    This is a lie again; why do you feel compelled to lie? They aren't being placed in jails.

    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JarredHead View Post
    Possession of marijuana is a federal crime that the Trump administration is choosing not to enforce.
    That is another lie; why do you feel compelled to lie so much? Link us up to where your lies are coming from.

    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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