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    Hello Bigdog,

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Why are they clamoring to get into the most racist, bigoted, homophobic, xenophobic, cruel capitalist country on the planet?
    The US has a lot of those problems but I don't believe we are the 'most' any of those things. Certainly not prior to our current administration. And everybody knows he can't stay in power forever. Perhaps immigrants are only concerned with trying to build a better life for themselves, and not politically informed or involved...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Criminally minded parents tend to be cruel.
    In most cases their only crime is trying to build a better life for themselves and their children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    And don't most claim to be fleeing Socialist shitholes?
    Very convenient that you claim everything bad is caused by socialism and everything good is caused by capitalism, but consider this: Capitalism exploits natural resources and pollutes the planet. Capitalism doesn't care about our habitat, nor if humans should have a long-term existence. Capitalism cannot replace government.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Do? Stop having children they can't support? Kill their unborn? Rise up against their socialist gov'ts? Claim asylum in Mexico as seekers are legally required to do?
    People are going to have children. The cruelty is ripping families apart that were bonded together. That's not good for children. Republicans are scaring the children.

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    Prove your claim that illegal immigrants are usually diligent workers.
    If they are not then they would not be 'taking American jobs.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Why are they clamoring to get into the most racist, bigoted, homophobic, xenophobic, cruel capitalist country on the planet?

    Criminally minded parents tend to be cruel.

    And don't most claim to be fleeing Socialist shitholes?

    Do? Stop having children they can't support? Kill their unborn? Rise up against their socialist gov'ts? Claim asylum in Mexico as seekers are legally required to do?

    Prove your claim that illegal immigrants are usually diligent workers.
    Real close friend of mine built student housing for a number of major universities.. He LOVED Mexicans.. He said they never laid out on Mondays and when it rained, they kept on working. Came in 30 days ahead of schedule..

    My husband had the same experience with his Mexican workers.

    Why do you think Trump employs Mexicans and Romanians at his Florida properties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    People with strong family values cannot support Trump in this without being hypocrites.
    You would think so, wouldn't you? Yet evangelicals, who profess to be the bestest and most righteous of all the Christian flavors, voted for Trump. Trump, the adulterous, lying, crooked, thieving, non-Xtian, racist, swindling, bullying braggart. It's hard to think of a single commandment he hasn't broken, nor is he (in his own words) at all repentant. So this? Just more fake news. Just sour-grapes (D)s trying to discredit our Glorious Orange Saviour. Rinse and repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Bigdog,



    The US has a lot of those problems but I don't believe we are the 'most' any of those things. Certainly not prior to our current administration. And everybody knows he can't stay in power forever. Perhaps immigrants are only concerned with trying to build a better life for themselves, and not politically informed or involved...
    What capitalist country is "the most" ... of those things I listed?

    Those "mosts" are a perception created by the Democrats long before Trump. And it was the Left's mantra for all of Barack Hussein O's 8 years.

    In most cases their only crime is trying to build a better life for themselves and their children.
    Their "known" crimes are breaking into our house. And not seeking asylum in the first country they enter.



    Very convenient that you claim everything bad is caused by socialism and everything good is caused by capitalism, but consider this: Capitalism exploits natural resources and pollutes the planet. Capitalism doesn't care about our habitat, nor if humans should have a long-term existence. Capitalism cannot replace government.
    Capitalistism doesn't want to kill consumers as you suggest. Nixon was forced to create the EPA ... by E.O. ... because of obstructionist dems.


    People are going to have children. The cruelty is ripping families apart that were bonded together. That's not good for children. Republicans are scaring the children.
    They are cruel parents.

    If they are not then they would not be 'taking American jobs.'
    Not proof. Just because some steal jobs from Americans does not mean they are usually diligent workers.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Real close friend of mine built student housing for a number of major universities.. He LOVED Mexicans.. He said they never laid out on Mondays and when it rained, they kept on working. Came in 30 days ahead of schedule..

    My husband had the same experience with his Mexican workers.

    Why do you think Trump employs Mexicans and Romanians at his Florida properties.
    The conversation is about illegal immigrants.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Real close friend of mine built student housing for a number of major universities.. He LOVED Mexicans.. He said they never laid out on Mondays and when it rained, they kept on working. Came in 30 days ahead of schedule..

    My husband had the same experience with his Mexican workers.

    Why do you think Trump employs Mexicans and Romanians at his Florida properties.
    LATINOS


    they are not all from Mexico


    in my experience


    if you treat a latio like a person who deserves respect


    you get it right back



    they are all about family and they work their asses off

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    Hello ThatOwlWoman,

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    You would think so, wouldn't you? Yet evangelicals, who profess to be the bestest and most righteous of all the Christian flavors, voted for Trump. Trump, the adulterous, lying, crooked, thieving, non-Xtian, racist, swindling, bullying braggart. It's hard to think of a single commandment he hasn't broken, nor is he (in his own words) at all repentant. So this? Just more fake news. Just sour-grapes (D)s trying to discredit our Glorious Orange Saviour. Rinse and repeat.
    Then it should be argued that this goes against their God.

    Trump is not God.

    Trump is going against God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Then it should be argued that this goes against their God.
    Trump is not God.
    Trump is going against God.
    They don't believe in that god any more than I believe there's an Easter Bunny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    they need to be SHAMED back to it
    You can't shame the shameless.

    The worst thing to happen to them is for them to lose their voice and influence. Taking that away from them will be more damaging than any shame they'll let slide off their backs. We have to overwhelm their Nazi voices by getting the millions who don't vote to go to the polls. Then, we will need to undertake a massive doxxing campaign against his supporters online. Then with that knowledge, we bombard their families, friends, and places of employment.

    I want to create an environment for Trump supporters that is the same the Nazi collaborators faced post-WWII. Because these people are going to try and change their stripes once the shit hits the fan. That can't be allowed to happen again. We let them do it with the teabags...next time, we can't accommodate that revisionism.
    When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist


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    Hello Bigdog,

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    What capitalist country is "the most" ... of those things I listed?
    Immigrants don't think in those terms. It is an artificial consideration you've fabricated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Those "mosts" are a perception created by the Democrats long before Trump. And it was the Left's mantra for all of Barack Hussein O's 8 years.
    Some have argued that, but it is not relevant here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Their "known" crimes are breaking into our house. And not seeking asylum in the first country they enter.
    The known crime is that people are fleeing oppression and the Trump administration does not recognize that. It is not a crime to flee oppression.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Capitalistism doesn't want to kill consumers as you suggest.
    I suggested no such thing. Capitalism doesn't 'want' to do anything. Capitalism has no thought process. It is a type of economy. It merely allows the exchange of wealth for product, and motivates producers to produce whatever is in demand. It requires regulation or it eats itself. That's why we have government.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Nixon was forced to create the EPA ... by E.O. ... because of obstructionist dems.
    The EPA was a good idea and worked fairly well until Trump placed it's biggest critic in control.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    They are cruel parents.

    No, the Trump administration is cruel for taking children away from their parents.

    Not proof. Just because some steal jobs from Americans does not mean they are usually diligent workers.
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    Hello Owl,

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    They don't believe in that god any more than I believe there's an Easter Bunny.
    Evangelicals do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Bigdog,



    Immigrants don't think in those terms. It is an artificial consideration you've fabricated.
    You made the claim it was not the "most". I see you have abandoned that position.

    You don't know what terms illegals think in.



    Some have argued that, but it is not relevant here.
    Yes, it is. Whenever illegal immigration is discussed, ... the Leftists scream ... those "terms".



    The known crime is that people are fleeing oppression and the Trump administration does not recognize that. It is not a crime to flee oppression.
    We have immigration criteria for asylum. If immigrants enter at legal check points, their case for asylum will be adjudicated. They are required by law to seek asylum in the first foreign country they enter, i.e. Mexico.


    I suggested no such thing. Capitalism doesn't 'want' to do anything. Capitalism has no thought process. It is a type of economy. It merely allows the exchange of wealth for product, and motivates producers to produce whatever is in demand. It requires regulation or it eats itself. That's why we have government.
    Capitalism is entrepreneurship, private property rights, and the right to inheritance. You were the one that suggested it was a form of government ... like socialism.


    The EPA was a good idea and worked fairly well until Trump placed it's biggest critic in control.
    Nixon's old EPA has grown into a governing bureaucracy run by unelected appointees, and needs to be reigned in, or abolished.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”


    So we can separate them from their families and lock them in cages?!?

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    Hello Bigdog,

    [QUOTE=Bigdog;2432261]We have immigration criteria for asylum. If immigrants enter at legal check points, their case for asylum will be adjudicated. They are required by law to seek asylum in the first foreign country they enter, i.e. Mexico.[/QUOTE}

    Not if they believe they will not be granted asylum in that nation.

    This policy will only force undocumented immigrants to avoid checkpoints and seek other means of entry. That will invariably end up with more deaths.
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    Okay, this thread is up to 4 pages and I ain't reading them all, so I apologize if it's already been asked, but could someone please show me the law that Trump wrote, voted on, and signed into law, that puts children into concentration camps?
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