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    Quote Originally Posted by Burpin View Post
    You're right, no emails for Trump, he just invited the Russians to The WH and delivered the information directly from his Shit-Hole.
    This is your brain on moron; don't be one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LameVagina 426 View Post
    When Trump inevitably flees to Russia to escape prosecution, don't expect anyone to believe your attempt to re-brand like people allowed you to do after Bush.
    Another whiny lying dumb leftist snowflake with severe TDS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyingVagina 426 View Post
    Putin wants Trump to be indicted because Putin knows that Trump is a coward who would never expect to stand trial for any crimes, and Trump will inevitably flee to Russia where he can serve as a President-in-Exile that Putin's FSB can manufacture idiot support for on the internet, thereby creating a permanent and lasting question to the legitimacy of our political system. Putin will treat Trump like a deposed ruler, much how we treated the Shah of Iran after the Islamic Revolution there resulted in his exile. Putin will do the same thing with Trump; using Trump's self-imposed exile as an excuse to question the legitimacy of our system. And he will have 20% of Americans supporting that.
    This is a tiny lying liberal brain on moron; don't be one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumbfuck in Exile View Post
    Really? What did the IG report say about the Trump-Russia investigation?

    Please note: I am asking what it said, not what you want it to have said.
    Incapable of reading it for yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOTHINGberger View Post
    Steele during his investigation in Russia found evidence of Russia interfering in the American elections and was sufficiently shocked that he informed the American intelligence agencies. That is how it all began. Steele did America a service.
    Moron thinks the Steele dossier was factual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    You're right, no emails for Trump, he just invited the Russians to The WH and delivered the information directly from his Shit-Hole.
    He also uses an unsecured cell phone in state business.

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    The report cited in the OP, which has nothing to do with the Steele dossier, appears to be a subject that neither Trumpsters nor normal people wish to discuss.

    I can understand the reluctance of Trumpsters, because it destroys their narrative. They would much rather talk about Strzok and Page bad-mouthing Trump, or McCabe's wife's politics. ("Ask her what it feels like to be a loser" - President of the USA.)

    What about normal people? If any of this is true, it shows that the Trump-Russia investigation was fully justified whether or not any collusion is established in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    He also uses an unsecured cell phone in state business.
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    Please spend a few moments perusing this report in The Guardian (April 2017):

    British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with Russia
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...m-links-russia

    Or if you prefer it second hand, the Daily Mail:

    British were first to pass on details of links between Donald Trump's campaign team and Russian agents
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sia-links.html

    Now, it's possible that The Guardian made the whole thing up, although they have never been known to do anything like that before.

    Slightly more likely is that high-ups in British intelligence made it up and planted it in the press, presumably to oblige the "cousins".

    Most likely, however, is that there are substantial elements of truth in the report, i.e. British and other allied intel agencies warned the US in early 2016 of "suspicious interactions" between members of the Trump team and Russian agents. This is not to say that there was collusion to swing the election, merely that there could have been - and whatever people say, this is not normal in US presidential elections.

    Suppose you are CIA Director Brennan and you receive repeated warnings such as these from friendly sources, including the esteemed GCHQ. What do you do - ignore them?



    GCHQ officials learned of the suspicious 'interactions' with Russia in late 2015
    The GCHQ never carried out a targeted operation against Donald Trump
    The alleged interactions were picked up as part of routine surveillance of Russian intelligence assets
    Tip was passed on to the United States during a routine exchange of information
    During the next six months into 2016, other agencies passed over information

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sia-links.html

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    Britain's spy agencies reportedly played a crucial role in revealing that President Donald Trump's campaign team was in contact with Russian intelligence operatives.

    Once officials in the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) learned of suspicious 'interactions' between Trump's inner circle and suspected Russian agents in late 2015, they passed the information on to the United States.

    The tip was passed on during a routine exchange of information, according to an intelligence insider.

    During the following six months into 2016, a number of western agencies, including ones in Germany, Estonia and Poland, shared their own information about interactions between people close to Trump and Russians.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sia-links.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Britain's spy agencies reportedly played a crucial role in revealing that President Donald Trump's campaign team was in contact with Russian intelligence operatives.

    Once officials in the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) learned of suspicious 'interactions' between Trump's inner circle and suspected Russian agents in late 2015, they passed the information on to the United States.

    The tip was passed on during a routine exchange of information, according to an intelligence insider.

    During the following six months into 2016, a number of western agencies, including ones in Germany, Estonia and Poland, shared their own information about interactions between people close to Trump and Russians.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...sia-links.html
    Funny how many on the Left like to say the Daily Mail is right wing blah blah, yet still quote it when it suits their purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Funny how many on the Left like to say the Daily Mail is right wing blah blah, yet still quote it when it suits their purpose.
    Do you choose a news outlet because it is left or right? I am looking for facts and thoroughness.

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    'There's something not right here': British spies warned the US about 'extensive' contact between Trump team and Russia.

    (President Donald Trump.Thomson Reuters)
    Britain's Government Communications Headquarters became aware of suspicious "interactions" between associates of Donald Trump and suspected or known Russian operatives in late 2015, The Guardian reported on Thursday.

    The Guardian's report — which said other intelligence agencies in Germany, Estonia, and Poland also picked up communications between Trump's associates and Russian agents — is consistent with earlier revelations about what spurred the US intelligence community to launch its investigation last summer into Trump's ties to Russia.

    The European agencies shared the intelligence with their American counterparts between late 2015 and mid-2016, The Guardian reported. But the FBI and the CIA "were slow to appreciate the extensive nature of contacts between Trump's team and Moscow ahead of the US election," the report said.

    "It looks like the [US] agencies were asleep," a UK intelligence source told The Guardian. The European agencies "were saying: 'There are contacts going on between people close to Mr. Trump and people we believe are Russian intelligence agents. You should be wary of this.' The message was: 'Watch out. There's something not right here.'"

    The FBI did not open its investigation into Russia's interference in the US election — and the Trump campaign's possible complicity — until July 2016, FBI Director James Comey told the House Intelligence Committee during a public hearing last month. That was more than six months after British intelligence officials were first alerted to the interactions between Trump's associates and known or suspected Russian operatives, according to The Guardian.

    US officials were "very late to the game" when it came to examining those contacts, a source told the British newspaper.

    The BBC's Paul Wood reported earlier this year that the investigation began in earnest in the spring of 2016 when an intelligence agency of one of the Baltic states passed former CIA Director John Brennan a recording that alleged money from the Kremlin had made its way into Trump's campaign coffers.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-ag...155016516.html

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    Tony Blair told Trump British spies were monitoring him, new ...



    Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair warned President Donald Trump's team that the U.K.'s security services may have been monitoring them during the presidential election, according to a new book.
    Journalist Michael Wolff’s explosive new release, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House


    http://www.newsweek.com/tony-blair-t...-claims-770221

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    Tony Blair told Trump British spies were monitoring him, new ...



    Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair warned President Donald Trump's team that the U.K.'s security services may have been monitoring them during the presidential election, according to a new book.
    Journalist Michael Wolff’s explosive new release, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House


    http://www.newsweek.com/tony-blair-t...-claims-770221

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Do you choose a news outlet because it is left or right? I am looking for facts and thoroughness.
    No you are not, you're looking for dirt and don't really care what the source is.

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