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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Rights are granted by the Creator but are enumerated in the Constitution, counseler.

    You don’t know this?
    You avoid or don't comprehend his point.

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    "Partisan hysteria aside, the children are separated from their parents while border agents sort things out.

    The CPS is guilty of worse travesties on *our own citizens*, in some circumstances. Did CNN tell you the separation is permanent?" DO #11
    a) I don't get cable.

    b) "Partisan hysteria"? It was the lead story on tonight's NBC Nightly News. And it's been prominently featured elsewhere. I'd tell you whether it lead on FNS, but today's broadcast was preempted by soccer.

    c) "the children are separated from their parents while border agents sort things out."
    "the children are separated from their parents while border agents sort things out" for the first time in history; due to Trump administration procedure change, which the president himself has blamed on congressional Democrats.

    d) "The CPS is guilty of worse travesties on *our own citizens*,"
    probably. Are you alleging that's a change for the worse since Trump's inauguration too?
    Or are you capable of comprehending the difference between the complications of CPS handling cases individually with virtual infinite variation,
    vs
    a brand new Trump administration policy change unprecedented in history?

    No.
    I didn't think so.
    "It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Rights come from God not the Government.

    Immigrants don’t have the same rights as Americans!
    The immigrants shouldn't have been eating them apples they were picking for red blooded americans. God has a thing against apple eaters.

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    K #18

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    "It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Rights come from God not the Government.

    Immigrants don’t have the same rights as Americans!
    As with most lies, there is a grain of truth to this. But it is a lie of omission, since the Constitution only guarantees enforcing those rights to citizens of the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Rights are granted by the Creator but are enumerated in the Constitution, counseler.

    You don’t know this?
    Jarrod nailed it. If rights are dependent solely upon citizenship then the government is the source of rights.

    Btw, idiot, the constitution clearly states that only certain rights are enumerated. See 9th amendment. The constitution instead enumerates the powers of the federal government.

    Conservatives have completely rejected classical liberal principles and instead are pursuing Putin's plan to destroy the West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    As with most lies, there is a grain of truth to this. But it is a lie of omission, since the Constitution only guarantees enforcing those rights to citizens of the US.
    So then the government is the source of rights?

    What's the omission?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Rights come from God not the Government.

    Immigrants don’t have the same rights as Americans!
    That is not a paradox. Legal immigrants do have the same rights as Americans. Illegal immigrants are arrested for breaking governmental laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    As with most lies, there is a grain of truth to this. But it is a lie of omission, since the Constitution only guarantees enforcing those rights to citizens of the US.
    Nothing in the Constitution limits our rights to citizens. If the Constitution prohibits government from abridging free speech, then it cannot abridge the speech of citizens, immigrants, or illegal immigrants. It can arrest and deport illegals but there is no right to be in the U. S. illegally.

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    "Conservatives have completely rejected classical liberal principles and instead are pursuing Putin's plan to destroy the West." T #21
    Not conservatives. Republicans.

    "It [liberal] is pretty much now a lost word, in the original sense of being an effort to restrain government; and one has to keep that in mind when using it." William F. Buckley Jr. April 2, 2000 on C-SPAN
    "It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Rights come from God not the Government.

    Immigrants don’t have the same rights as Americans!
    here's another "paradox" for a simpleton such as yourself.

    I am a conservative.
    I am an atheist.

    How do you like dem apples?


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    Grind’s got you beat by miles. He is very intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irthriuth View Post
    here's another "paradox" for a simpleton such as yourself.

    I am a conservative.
    I am an atheist.

    How do you like dem apples?
    You are also the lying fuck that cites 4 year old polls as "new".

    Then, as pussies do, ban those that will out you on your lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    You are also the lying fuck that cites 4 year old polls as "new".

    Then, as pussies do, ban those that will out you on your lies.
    did you actually read the thread? I admitted it was a mistake. It wasn't a lie. keep being salty, dumbfuck.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    That is not a paradox. Legal immigrants do have the same rights as Americans. Illegal immigrants are arrested for breaking governmental laws.
    Sure, but they retain rights to due process. Many Trumpsters have argued they have no rights and that immigrants in general have no rights. They made those very arguments in regards to Trump's Muslim ban.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irthriuth View Post
    did you actually read the thread? I admitted it was a mistake. It wasn't a lie. keep being salty, dumbfuck.
    Why would I continue with a thread I was banned from, pusswipe?

    A liar AND a pussy. Bad combo, bitch.

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