Paradox for Conservatives

[Nordberg]

a) I don't get cable.

b) "Partisan hysteria"? It was the lead story on tonight's NBC Nightly News. And it's been prominently featured elsewhere. I'd tell you whether it lead on FNS, but today's broadcast was preempted by soccer.

c) "the children are separated from their parents while border agents sort things out."
"the children are separated from their parents while border agents sort things out" for the first time in history; due to Trump administration procedure change, which the president himself has blamed on congressional Democrats.

d) "The CPS is guilty of worse travesties on *our own citizens*,"
probably. Are you alleging that's a change for the worse since Trump's inauguration too?
Or are you capable of comprehending the difference between the complications of CPS handling cases individually with virtual infinite variation,
vs
a brand new Trump administration policy change unprecedented in history?

No.
I didn't think so.

I guess calling it sorting out makes the experience less traumatic for a child. They get pulled out of their parents arms and taken away by strangers, to sort things out, i suppose that does not hurt so much.,

[MAGA MAN]

Nothing in the Constitution limits our rights to citizens. If the Constitution prohibits government from abridging free speech, then it cannot abridge the speech of citizens, immigrants, or illegal immigrants. It can arrest and deport illegals but there is no right to be in the U. S. illegally.

Too funny. You think that the Founders wrote the Constitution for the world, not just the country that they fought and died for.

[MAGA MAN]

So then the government is the source of rights?

What's the omission?

Re-read the post that you just quoted.

[BRUTALITOPS]

Why would I continue with a thread I was banned from, pusswipe?

A liar AND a pussy. Bad combo, bitch.

you would continue so you could be informed to the fullest extent. it seems you wish to remain ignorant though and say inaccurate things. this is why you get banned from my threads. it's all insults and vitriol from you in a very childish manner, with no aim to improve or better yourself. In short, you are a troll.

[MAGA MAN]

you would continue so you could be informed to the fullest extent. it seems you wish to remain ignorant though and say inaccurate things. this is why you get banned from my threads. it's all insults and vitriol from you in a very childish manner, with no aim to improve or better yourself. In short, you are a troll.

Boooooommmm!

[Timshel]

Re-read the post that you just quoted.

Done. Can you answer my questions now?

The 14th makes clear that rights to "life, liberty, [and] property" as well as "equal protection of the laws" are guaranteed to all persons, not just citizens. You don't know what you are talking about.

[Flash]

Sure, but they retain rights to due process. Many Trumpsters have argued they have no rights and that immigrants in general have no rights. They made those very arguments in regards to Trump's Muslim ban.

Due process rights are prescribed by law, not natural rights. I have problems with the "God given" or natural rights concept because nobody can tell me what it includes and doesn't include and how we know we have such rights since most nations to not.

My main point is that there is no irony between those concepts as described in the OP.

[Flash]

Too funny. You think that the Founders wrote the Constitution for the world, not just the country that they fought and died for.

Not the world, but everybody living legally in the U. S. Even those living illegally cannot have their speech, press, religion, etc. restricted. The Constitution does not confer any rights to anyone, it restricts what government can do. There is no mention in the Constitution of any rights just applying to citizens.

[domer76]

you would continue so you could be informed to the fullest extent. it seems you wish to remain ignorant though and say inaccurate things. this is why you get banned from my threads. it's all insults and vitriol from you in a very childish manner, with no aim to improve or better yourself. In short, you are a troll.

Here's the way it works, pusswipe. If you wish for someone to actually read your lying bullshit, then don't ban them.

But, I see why you do. You wish to avoid someone like me outing your fecal-laden posts.

You don't want to be insulted, bitch? Great. Simple fix. Don't post lying, sophomoric crap and you won't be treated like the lying, sophomoric pusswipe that you are.

Vaginal vault.

[domer76]

Due process rights are prescribed by law, not natural rights. I have problems with the "God given" or natural rights concept because nobody can tell me what it includes and doesn't include and how we know we have such rights since most nations to not.

My main point is that there is no irony between those concepts as described in the OP.

That's because you recognize the problem with "God-given" or endowed by some "Creator". The paradox is for those who blindly accept the Creator thing.

[domer76]

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He does? You mean referring to a 2014 poll as "new"? Nope, cocksucker. Just like you, he lies.

Here's the truth about pusswipes, Irthriuth included:

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[Timshel]

Due process rights are prescribed by law, not natural rights. I have problems with the "God given" or natural rights concept because nobody can tell me what it includes and doesn't include and how we know we have such rights since most nations to not.

My main point is that there is no irony between those concepts as described in the OP.

Due process rights are in deference to natural rights. Jefferson's wording in the DofI imitates Locke's and the 14th borrows those words in ensuring due process rights.

Many nations have these same rights.

There is certainly irony in any argument that states that certain rights are universal (it is not necessary that one contends they come from God) regardless of the law, but that they only exist for citizens. That contention is patently absurd.

[MAGA MAN]

Not the world, but everybody living legally in the U. S.

Therefore illegals don't have the rights guaranteed by the Constitution.

[Micawber]

Republicans do not know what a paradox is...

[MAGA MAN]

Done. Can you answer my questions now?

The 14th makes clear that rights to "life, liberty, [and] property" as well as "equal protection of the laws" are guaranteed to all persons, not just citizens. You don't know what you are talking about.

Wow. So you've never actually read the Constitution. My response to your question is to refer to the fiorst few words:


We the People of the United States...