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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Think so, dear Brother?
    Yes, brother. The Northern Neck Regional Jail in Warsaw, Virginia is no picnic. Word has it that it is infested with cockroaches, and the thread count on the sheets is reportedly primitively very low as well.
    Legal experts agree that Manafart is likely to be uncomfortably incarcerated there until at least September.

    Of course he could get out tomorrow if he just agrees to come clean with Mueller, about his Russian conspiracy during the Trump campaign.
    We have the intellect to imagine the finality of our own demise but do not have the sophistication to overcome our survival instinct and accept it.
    Solution? Magical thinking and childish promises of everlasting life.
    Ergo, religion.

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    a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
    Ask yourself honestly if this describes what you believe to be true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    It’s obvious Mullet is playing the only card he has. Sadly for Manafort, he’s the card so he gets thrown into jail without being convicted of a crime.

    But Trump must be stopped.
    Have you heard or read the transcripts from the court when the judge decided to jail him? He was jailed to prevent him from witness tampering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    isn't this that "dead case" ( off the shelf) Mueller conjured up?
    Witness tampering while on bail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Witness tampering while on bail?
    Was he convicted of it?
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Was he convicted of it?
    And your point is......?

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    Why hasn’t Manafort flipped?

    George Papadopoulos flipped. Michael Flynn flipped. Rick Gates flipped. Michael Cohen may be preparing to flip.

    But Manafort has refused to do so. Even though he’s facing 25 charges that could easily put him in prison for the rest of his life — and even though the evidence for many if not most of these charges appears quite strong — he’s pleaded not guilty to everything, and has given no public indication he’s considering flipping.

    Why? Again, one possible explanation is he just has nothing to flip with. Either he wasn’t involved in collusion or he has nothing on Trump or anybody else Mueller cares about. Alternatively, maybe Manafort is just holding out hope that he can beat the charges.

    A darker possibility is that, given an apparent series of Russia-linked assassinations in the West, Manafort fears violent reprisals against himself or his family should he give information implicating Russians.

    Others believe Manafort is just holding out for Trump to pardon him. The New York Times has reported that Trump’s lawyer John Dowd discussed a possible presidential pardon with Manafort’s lawyer last year, and Rudy Giuliani floated the idea again this Friday.
    https://www.vox.com/2018/6/15/174685...er-russia-jail

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    Why hasn’t Manafort flipped?

    George Papadopoulos flipped. Michael Flynn flipped. Rick Gates flipped. Michael Cohen may be preparing to flip.

    But Manafort has refused to do so. Even though he’s facing 25 charges that could easily put him in prison for the rest of his life — and even though the evidence for many if not most of these charges appears quite strong — he’s pleaded not guilty to everything, and has given no public indication he’s considering flipping.

    Why? Again, one possible explanation is he just has nothing to flip with. Either he wasn’t involved in collusion or he has nothing on Trump or anybody else Mueller cares about. Alternatively, maybe Manafort is just holding out hope that he can beat the charges.

    A darker possibility is that, given an apparent series of Russia-linked assassinations in the West, Manafort fears violent reprisals against himself or his family should he give information implicating Russians.

    Others believe Manafort is just holding out for Trump to pardon him. The New York Times has reported that Trump’s lawyer John Dowd discussed a possible presidential pardon with Manafort’s lawyer last year, and Rudy Giuliani floated the idea again this Friday.
    https://www.vox.com/2018/6/15/174685...er-russia-jail
    Interesting point about Manafort possibly fearing Russian retribution. Never thought about that.

    But flipping, in of itself, doesn’t mean much. The only thing it means for sure is the defendant is willing to cooperate. If I’m Gates for example, why wouldn’t I flip? It doesn’t mean I have anything that would help them.

    All of this flipping also indicates Mullet most likely doesn’t have direct evidence—so he’s been force to resort to trying to flip people. Ideally, Mullet wouldn’t have to do it because there’s always the risk the flippers will compose instead of sing and they wouldn’t know it until it was too late.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    It's no secret prosecutors will offer "deals" to "flippers" for lies that will incriminate those they wish to prosecute. It's how they convince grand juries to hand down indictments.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Just before dusk on Friday, a white van pulled into Northern Neck Regional Jail, a green-roofed, low-slung building about three miles from the bank of the Rappahannock River in Virginia.

    Inside the van sat former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.
    The white van had left the federal courthouse in downtown Washington, DC, with Manafort inside three hours earlier.
    In the federal system, there is no mugshot nor perp walk. If he's found guilty and sent to prison for the amount of time prosecutors hope, the 69-year-old man may never be seen outside again

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/16/polit...ife/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Interesting point about Manafort possibly fearing Russian retribution. Never thought about that.

    But flipping, in of itself, doesn’t mean much. The only thing it means for sure is the defendant is willing to cooperate. If I’m Gates for example, why wouldn’t I flip? It doesn’t mean I have anything that would help them.

    All of this flipping also indicates Mullet most likely doesn’t have direct evidence—so he’s been force to resort to trying to flip people. Ideally, Mullet wouldn’t have to do it because there’s always the risk the flippers will compose instead of sing and they wouldn’t know it until it was too late.
    In your expert opinion as a criminal prosecutor, right. LOL Clown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Interesting point about Manafort possibly fearing Russian retribution. Never thought about that.

    But flipping, in of itself, doesn’t mean much. The only thing it means for sure is the defendant is willing to cooperate. If I’m Gates for example, why wouldn’t I flip? It doesn’t mean I have anything that would help them.

    All of this flipping also indicates Mullet most likely doesn’t have direct evidence—so he’s been force to resort to trying to flip people. Ideally, Mullet wouldn’t have to do it because there’s always the risk the flippers will compose instead of sing and they wouldn’t know it until it was too late.
    think about it .flipping for what? Russian collusion? ROFL. of course not.
    one possible explanation is he just has nothing to flip with. Either he wasn’t involved in collusion or he has nothing on Trump or anybody else Mueller cares about.
    If he nothing to flip, then Mueller the pig just wants to fuck him over. what I think

    Mueller lobbied for Ukrainians , not Russians -although I'm sure there was an oligarch in the pile as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    But flipping, in of itself, doesn’t mean much. The only thing it means for sure is the defendant is willing to cooperate. If I’m Gates for example, why wouldn’t I flip? It doesn’t mean I have anything that would help them.
    You have got to be kidding.

    You honestly think a prosecutor will give a defendant a flip deal when he has nothing to aid the prosecutor?

    What do you smoke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    It's no secret prosecutors will offer "deals" to "flippers" for lies that will incriminate those they wish to prosecute. It's how they convince grand juries to hand down indictments.
    Jesus H. Christ...you really have fallen off the edge.

    Go with Area 51 or the Grassy Knoll. It makes more sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    You have got to be kidding.

    You honestly think a prosecutor will give a defendant a flip deal when he has nothing to aid the prosecutor?

    What do you smoke?
    Dude, if the defendant spills beans before getting a bargain he’s either a stupid defendant or he should fire his lawyer.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Was he convicted of it?
    He admitted it. However he is jailed for not maintaining the terms of his bail. That does not require a trial. He is guilty.

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