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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    304,000 people who voted for Obama did not vote for Clinton..........Trump won Michigan by 11,000 votes........

    similar results in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.......

    That shows how Clinton lost votes compared to Obama in three states. It doesn't show how she polled almost exactly the same number nationally (65.8 million) as Obama did in 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    How does one determine six million voters switched from Obama to Trump?

    Certainly Trump could win in 2020, promoting Obama's economy would carry him, but to do so he would have to limit his blunders and focus on the economy, but he is too big an egotist to accomplish that, one critique by anyone that he doesn't like and off goes Twitter
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    Quote Originally Posted by seeker View Post
    But in 2016 the devoted Methodist voted for a serial adulterer and crude bully who is a byword for shameless lying?
    O-kay.
    perhaps because the alternative was a crude bully who is a byword for shameless lying and the wife of a serial adulterer..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    He didn't even really win one term.
    This notion is one of many reasons why Trump will win a second term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seeker View Post
    That shows how Clinton lost votes compared to Obama in three states. It doesn't show how she polled almost exactly the same number nationally (65.8 million) as Obama did in 2012.

    Thanks all the same.
    1) it shows how she lost the election by not getting enough votes in key states

    2) off set by more votes in states she would have won anyway.....for example.....
    California votes for Obama 2012 7,854,285
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...lifornia,_2012
    California votes for Clinton 2016 8,753,788
    https://www.nytimes.com/elections/re...-clinton-trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    Democrats need to realize Trump has one thing on his side, it is a shared hatred of the same people and institutions in America. Of course Trump cares nada for his base, but the base doesn't see that, some may not even care so long as their devils are ostracized. Trumpian conservatism is a creation of 'dark money'. Trump is only taking advantage of many years of that propaganda and education. Read 'Invisible Hands' or 'Dark Money' if you doubt that. Money muddies the waters and makes the issues us against them. That works fine because the elites gain power and prestige and the working class throws stones at each other. Meanwhile resentment grows and workable, productive solutions fade into the distance. See "White Trash' too if you care to be educated.

    LOL Such bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    This notion is one of many reasons why Trump will win a second term.
    How does that make sense? He did lose the popular vote. He became president by the "backdoor" of the electoral college that over ruled the real vote. You would think Trump would recognize that and show some humility and deference. But a man with limited intelligence, a huge childish ego and no respect for our history will do exactly what he wants. And you guys parrot what he lies about and claim it as fact.
    You rightys are part of the problem that threatens the American system. Trumpy has driven away our long time allies who fought along with us to beat back Hitler , Mussolini and other other dictators are now embracing a man who is palling around with dictators. What would you have done to a Dem president who claimed Kim was a fine man who he admired. What would you have done if he lauded Putin and turned against our European allies? You would be impeaching. You would be right to. now you take anything trump says and does and love it. Trump conned you kiddies and is still doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    How does that make sense? He did lose the popular vote. He became president by the "backdoor" of the electoral college that over ruled the real vote. You would think Trump would recognize that and show some humility and deference. But a man with limited intelligence, a huge childish ego and no respect for our history will do exactly what he wants. And you guys parrot what he lies about and claim it as fact.
    You rightys are part of the problem that threatens the American system. Trumpy has driven away our long time allies who fought along with us to beat back Hitler , Mussolini and other other dictators are now embracing a man who is palling around with dictators. What would you have done to a Dem president who claimed Kim was a fine man who he admired. What would you have done if he lauded Putin and turned against our European allies? You would be impeaching. You would be right to. now you take anything trump says and does and love it. Trump conned you kiddies and is still doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    ...He became president by the "backdoor" of the electoral college that over ruled the real vote. ....
    Do you not understand the plain language of the Constitution, or hate it so much that you wish to usurp it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    How does that make sense? He did lose the popular vote. He became president by the "backdoor" of the electoral college that over ruled the real vote.
    This notion is one of many reasons why Trump will win a second term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    How does that make sense? He did lose the popular vote. He became president by the "backdoor" of the electoral college that over ruled the real vote.
    Yeah, the disproportionate representation of the Electoral College is another issue that's not being addressed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tff View Post
    Yeah, the disproportionate representation of the Electoral College is another issue that's not being addressed...
    All those illegal votes in KKKalifornia....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    He didn't even really win one term.

    He lost the popular vote by millions, and thus does not have the consent of the governed. And I have my doubts about the legitimacy of the electoral college fluke he pulled off, because to the best of my knowledge the Republican legislatures in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania systematically and aggressively pursued voter disenfranchisement, made conscious efforts to depress the vote, and used every undemocratic means reasonably at their disposal to hand an electoral college victory to an obese Reality TV entertainer.
    First line read, rest unread. Give it a break already and deal with reality or STFU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    Voter Suppression ... it's the only way he can Win
    It's the law - suppress illegals from voting. Sounds like you agree with the OP.

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    Trump is going to flee to Russia the moment he's indicted or subpoenaed or impeached. He has weak character and could never survive a trial without ending up pleading guilty by reason of insanity. Trump avoids accountability like his supporters avoid toothpaste and vegetables. Russia has no extradition treaty with the US, it's where Trump's money is, and Putin can use him as a puppet President-in-exile to continue attacking the fundamentals and legitmacy of western Democracy.
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