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    Trump is a conman, even better that I thought he was. He played the uneasy, insecure American voters like the political neophytes they are. They thought a vote for a self proclaimed billionaire was a vote for the people and the average man. How he convinced them of that is amazing. He had a tax cut , 83 percent of it went to the top 1 percent. They still think it was for them. His tariff are going to damage America workers, not help them. They applaud. A tariff simply increase prices Americans pay for goods. It is a tax on consumers. The people love it. Trump is alienating our long term allies and palling up with Putin and Kim. He admires leaders who run roughshod over the people. Trump said Kim was smart, funny and talented. And you rightys love it. the republican party is dead. it is trumlicans now. An you rightys are all going to be rich and not have to pay taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    Oh I know that, my Dog and Cat Voted Twice each last election.

    I'm actively recruiting the yard Rabbits in a deal to protect my plants ... and there's a bunch of them.
    You should turn yourself in then because that's illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    Sally Tedrow voted for Barack Obama for president in 2008. Four years later, the retiree and devoted Methodist from Keokuk, Iowa, did it again.
    But in 2016 the devoted Methodist voted for a serial adulterer and crude bully who is a byword for shameless lying?
    O-kay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    "insights on why about 6 million Americans switched their votes from Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016.

    Obama 2012: 65.9 million
    Trump 2016: 63.0 million
    Clinton 2016: 65.8 million

    6 million switched from Obama to Trump? WTH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    try a little introspection as to why 6 million voters switched from Obama to Trump
    If Hillary lost 6 million of Obama's votes, she must have picked up 6 million from somewhere else - because the totals are almost identical.

    May we have the benefit of your introspection, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    They won’t get it and never will. They don’t want to get it

    Here is the fundamental reason why. In their heart of hearts they think they are better and smarter than Trump voters.

    I think she is partially right about why he will win re-election. The other reason is he is actually doing what he said he would despite tremendous obstacles.

    If the Presidential election were held today, Trump would win in a bigger landslide. He wouldn’t lose a state and would likely pick a few up.

    I will go further and say that in 2020, Trump will get at least 15% of the black vote which will make it 10000% impossible for any democrat to win.
    Wait until remains of US soldiers start coming home from NK and see how the numbers jump upwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    If Hillary lost 6 million of Obama's votes, she must have picked up 6 million from somewhere else - because the totals are almost identical.

    May we have the benefit of your introspection, please?
    6 million illegals in KKKalifornia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    Obama 2012: 65.9 million
    Trump 2016: 63.0 million
    Clinton 2016: 65.8 million

    6 million switched from Obama to Trump? WTH?
    You are making the false assumption that those totals represent the same voters in all election years and aren’t accounting for changes due to new voters, dead voters those that voted in one election and not another

    Don’t be a limited thinker. It is dangerous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    If Hillary lost 6 million of Obama's votes, she must have picked up 6 million from somewhere else - because the totals are almost identical.

    May we have the benefit of your introspection, please?
    You are a limited thinker

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    That's all very well, but how did Hillary lose 6 million of Obama's votes and still poll almost exactly the same number -
    65.8 million. Do you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seeker View Post
    That's all very well, but how did Hillary lose 6 million of Obama's votes and still poll almost exactly the same number -
    65.8 million. Do you know?
    Another limited thinker

    You really can’t think why? You need it spelled out for you?

    No wonder you and Frank turn to Rachel Maddow for your talking points

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    You need it spelled out for you?
    Yes please, spell it out! And no vague talk about new voters, dead voters, etc. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seeker View Post
    That's all very well, but how did Hillary lose 6 million of Obama's votes and still poll almost exactly the same number -
    65.8 million. Do you know?
    yes......for example
    Michigan votes for Obama 2012 2,564,569
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...Michigan,_2012
    Michigan votes for Clinton 2016 2,268,839
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...Michigan,_2016

    304,000 people who voted for Obama did not vote for Clinton..........Trump won the state by 11,000 votes........

    similar results in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.......

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    Democrats need to realize Trump has one thing on his side, it is a shared hatred of the same people and institutions in America. Of course Trump cares nada for his base, but the base doesn't see that, some may not even care so long as their devils are ostracized. Trumpian conservatism is a creation of 'dark money'. Trump is only taking advantage of many years of that propaganda and education. Read 'Invisible Hands' or 'Dark Money' if you doubt that. Money muddies the waters and makes the issues us against them. That works fine because the elites gain power and prestige and the working class throws stones at each other. Meanwhile resentment grows and workable, productive solutions fade into the distance. See "White Trash' too if you care to be educated.

    I Know Why Poor Whites Chant Trump, Trump, Trump http://www.stirjournal.com/2016/04/0...p-trump-trump/


    "President Donald Trump could be on track to spend as much as triple the time former President Barack Obama did on the golf course in his first year in office -- and to play more than former President George W. Bush did in eight years in office."

    "As we crossed the 300-day mark of Donald Trump’s presidency on Thursday, fact-checkers noted that he has made more than 1,600 false or misleading claims. Good God. At least five times a day, on average, this president says something that isn’t true." Timothy Egan

    "Look no further than the fact that Sarah Huckabee Sanders can say with a straight face that a comedian being mean to Ivanka Trump on television is “vile,” “vicious,” “appalling,” and “disgusting,” but she will never apply those apt descriptors to the administration she’s fronting for: one that is led by a man who brags about grabbing women by their pussies, calls human beings animals, and enacts policies that separate children from their parents in the name of keeping asylum-seekers out of the United States."

    https://www.thecut.com/2018/05/saman...l-frontal.html


    What to read:

    'Invisible Hands: The Businessmen's Crusade Against the New Deal' Kim Phillips-Fein
    "Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right" Jane Mayer
    'White Trash: The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America' by Nancy Isenberg
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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    unreal . they will never, ever get it. they cling to excuses and look for boogeymen/
    try a little introspection as to why 6 million voters switched from Obama to Trump
    How does one determine six million voters switched from Obama to Trump?

    Certainly Trump could win in 2020, promoting Obama's economy would carry him, but to do so he would have to limit his blunders and focus on the economy, but he is too big an egotist to accomplish that, one critique by anyone that he doesn't like and off goes Twitter

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