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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    America was attacked by Confederate troops. We didn't just march down and start attacking for no good reason.
    Who is we fuckstick? You didn’t do shit and you don’t ave the balls to

    If you had balls you would have joined a real service and not the pussy Air Force

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    Do the words of the Declaration have meaning to you as an American?
    Not with respect to this debate. The intent of the common Confederate soldier does, since that is my argument when I entered this thread. And I am rarely, if ever, wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    Not with respect to this debate. The intent of the common Confederate soldier does, since that is my argument when I entered this thread. And I am rarely, if ever, wrong.
    It was the responsibility of every CSA troop to know what he was fighting for. Which was clearly outlined in the secession documents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    It was the responsibility of every CSA troop to know what he was fighting for. Which was clearly outlined in the secession documents.
    Do you actually think that the common Confederate soldier read them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    Enslaved by Brits in England and sent to Brits settled in the new world. Learn your sordid history.
    No they weren't - it was called by a different name, and it came to an end, like a prison sentence, so that you, rather than your 'black' cousins became citizens. Incidentally, you might try very hard to grasp I don't live in England and do not wish to live in union with those who identify with Germans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    He probably couldn't read them.
    I'll take that as your concession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    No they weren't - it was called by a different name, and it came to an end, like a prison sentence, so that you, rather than your 'black' cousins became citizens. Incidentally, you might try very hard to grasp I don't live in England and do not wish to live in union with those who identify with Germans.
    Learn your sordid history.:

    King James II and Charles I led a continued effort to enslave the Irish. Britain’s famed Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing one’s next door neighbor.

    The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.

    Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.

    From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well.
    http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/...-white-slaves/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    So the population of the West Indies is now Irish with a sun-tan? That's an Irish history you've got there, kid. and what the shit do you think your fantasies have to do with the Cymry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    So the population of the West Indies is now Irish with a sun-tan? That's an Irish history you've got there, kid. and what the shit do you think your fantasies have to do with the Cymry?
    British-Irish history, and it totally destroys your position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    British-Irish history, and it totally destroys your position.
    What position's that, then - Chattel slavery of the Irish? You read. obviously, nothing but IRA propaganda. It makes for excellent terrorism, very bad history. And, as I say, learn just something about British history when you get to the next grade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    What position's that, then - Chattel slavery of the Irish? You read. obviously, nothing but IRA propaganda. It makes for excellent terrorism, very bad history. And, as I say, learn just something about British history when you get to the next grade.
    Are you a Holocaust denier as well?

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