Most Conservatives Still Believe The Civil War Wasn't Over Slavery

**MAGA MAN** · 06-18-2018, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Threedee

I'll take that as it's a retarded region.

Bigot!

**Nordberg** · 06-18-2018, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Joey Jojo

I understand the libs argument. Here's mine: the VAST majority of men who fought(and died) for the Confederates owned no slaves. So to say they were fighting for something they literally never had is a stretch to say the least.

. The wealth of the south was predicated on the backs of slaves. They were defending their ability to make money. It is not just the cotton pickers, but sellers, buyers distributors, satellite businesses and more. You did not have to own slaves to fight for the right to own them. It is no stretch. The civil wars was about slavery. Ever hear of the Underground Railroad where slaves were helped escape the south and go north, often to Canada? Civil was was about slavery.

**iolo** · 06-19-2018, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Soul

Are you a Holocaust denier as well?

My father was, apparently, on a Hitler death list. I expect you drew it up.

**iolo** · 06-19-2018, 06:05 AM

Incidentally, Dark Soul, I think you should know the difference between slavery and indentured labour. I'm against both, since you will soon ask, but they are different things.

**MAGA MAN** · 06-19-2018, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by iolo

My father was, apparently, on a Hitler death list. I expect you drew it up.

Born many years later than that. Perhaps your hero, George Soros?

**MAGA MAN** · 06-19-2018, 06:31 AM

Originally Posted by iolo

Incidentally, Dark Soul, I think you should know the difference between slavery and indentured labour. I'm against both, since you will soon ask, but they are different things.

So? The Brits enslaved the Irish.

**iolo** · 06-19-2018, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Soul

Born many years later than that. Perhaps your hero, George Soros?

Who he? I leave heroes to you Nazis.

**iolo** · 06-19-2018, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Soul

So? The Brits enslaved the Irish.

What are 'the Brits'? As I point out, you don't know what slavery is, or anything about real history You are discussing a religious war in which Papists had murdered Protestants in large numbers, as you doubtless don't know.

**MAGA MAN** · 06-19-2018, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by iolo

Who he? I leave heroes to you Nazis.

George Soros is a billionaire lib that fiances lib causes. He was a teenager during WWII and worked stealing money from Jews. He's every lib's hero.

**Nordberg** · 06-19-2018, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Soul

George Soros is a billionaire lib that fiances lib causes. He was a teenager during WWII and worked stealing money from Jews. He's every lib's hero.

he was 14 when WW2 ended. but he did that? hating is your sport, but try to be correct on occasion. Like once.

**rhym3pays** · 06-19-2018, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by zymurgy

further more - it is an argument that the larger lasting impact of that war was about much more then slavery. Every 5-4 decision we see come down from SCOTUS is a remnant of a war that turned a constitution into a bunch of contradictory words that can no longer be agreed on.

Slavery was not going to last much longer regardless, even if the South were allowed to break free. What else was settled was we do not actually believe in the Spirit of 1776 - that was propaganda to get a bunch of people to fight a war for transfer of power

How many more years would you have been willing to be enslaved? How many more of your relatives would you have been content with seeing raped, murdered, sold off?

I have seen many people make the claim that if we would have just let the southern states keep slaves, it would have died off eventually -- easy to say when you are not the demographic in chains.

Meanwhile those are also the same people who cry "tyranny!!!" and gear up for armed rebellion -- just because some rancher in Nevada didn't want to pay grazing fees

**Minister of Truth** · 06-19-2018, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by iolo

What are 'the Brits'? As I point out, you don't know what slavery is, or anything about real history You are discussing a religious war in which Papists had murdered Protestants in large numbers, as you doubtless don't know.

The English, and the Anglicans started the killing.

**Minister of Truth** · 06-19-2018, 01:42 PM

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**MAGA MAN** · 06-19-2018, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Nordberg

he was 14 when WW2 ended. but he did that? hating is your sport, but try to be correct on occasion. Like once.

He's admitted to this. Is he such a hero to your lib causes that you aren't interested in his actual philosophy? In a nutshell, it's 'take advantage of every bad situation'.

**Nordberg** · 06-19-2018, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Soul

Born many years later than that. Perhaps your hero, George Soros?

Why do you call Soros a hero? there are very few liberals who know anything about him. He is not lie the Kochs are to the right. He is not trying to run the party. Rightys do that a lot. call a Dem backer a hero or something like that. not fair and very dishonest.