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    Default Kim Jong-un commits to 'complete de-nuclearization' in historic agreement with Trump

    • President Trump and Kim Jong-un met at the Capella Resort, an isolated hotel on Sentosa island in Singapore
    • They had a handshake photo-op before engaging in a one-on-one conversation with translators that lasted nearly 45 minutes
    • Their private meeting gave way to an expanded bilateral with top officials from both countries
    • Trump will address the media on Tuesday afternoon prior to his departure for Washington
    • The summit began at 9 am in Singapore, which is 9pm EDT on the East Coast
    • President Trump said in his first remarks that 'it's an honor' to be meeting with Kim, whom he expects to have 'a terrific relationship' with now that they've been personally introduced
    • Kim told the U.S. president, 'It was not easy to get here...old prejudices and practices worked as obstacles on our way forward, but we overcame all of them'
    • Trump set the tone for the talks, sending Kim an outstretched hand and patting the dictator's right elbow with the other
    • Neither man smiled during the formal photo, but Trump gave Kim a warm grip-and-grin moments later
    • The two signed a 'comprehensive' agreement but didn't immediately reveal the language




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    is that kim's sister we saw at the Olympics? (photo left)

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    I know why Democrats have been so churlish and negative about this. They know if Trump pulls this off then he will be hailed as a great president and their dreams of putting yet another identity politics PC spouting Dem in the White House will have evaporated. It really is that simple folks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    is that kim's sister we saw at the Olympics? (photo left)
    she doesnt look like a 10 to me! sad!
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    is that kim's sister we saw at the Olympics? (photo left)
    Yes looks like her!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    I know why Democrats have been so churlish and negative about this. They know if Trump pulls this off then he will be hailed as a great president and their dreams of putting yet another identity politics PC spouting Dem in the White House will have evaporated. It really is that simple folks!
    What Democrats have been "churlish"?

    Please be specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    is that kim's sister we saw at the Olympics? (photo left)
    Good catch. That sure is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    I know why Democrats have been so churlish and negative about this. They know if Trump pulls this off then he will be hailed as a great president and their dreams of putting yet another identity politics PC spouting Dem in the White House will have evaporated. It really is that simple folks!
    pretty much. to take it one step further its not about the white house if this is spun successfully. This means that the blue wave they hope for will not happen in november leaving them in the wilderness again.

    Politically speaking if Republicans can hold the house they will certainly make gains in the senate (almost guaranteed) so Trump can say he is one of the few presidents whose party gained power in the midterms.

    To put it in terms more familiar with our colonies it would be like if churchhill managed to retain British dominance after world war 2 instead of handing everything over to the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    What Democrats have been "churlish"?

    Please be specific.
    there should be no need to dignify this question with an actual response.
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    China may take bigger role as ‘guarantor and mediator’ after Trump-Kim nuclear talks

    Beijing will help both sides keep their promises on expected ‘symbolic deals’ made in Singapore, according to Chinese analysts
    PUBLISHED : Monday, 11 June, 2018, 9:30am
    UPDATED : Monday, 11 June, 2018, 1:21pm

    Beijing is expected to take a bigger role in Korean peninsula negotiations after US President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un meet on Tuesday – helping the two sides to push forward any deals they make.

    The role would be as a “guarantor”, Chinese analysts say, not just of progress on the denuclearisation Washington is seeking, but also to ensure what Kim wants most: the safety of his regime.

    Reflecting the stakes in play in the negotiations, a leading US politician has called for lawmakers there to endorse the use of military force against North Korea as a precautionary measure in case the Singapore summit fails to reach a diplomatic agreement of some kind.

    Lindsey Graham, a Republican senator from South Carolina who is a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, told ABC News on Sunday, that “Donald Trump is not going to capitulate, so there’s really only two options – peace or war.”

    The latest indication of Beijing’s influence over Pyongyang came on Sunday, when Kim arrived in Singapore for the summit not aboard the North Korea Air Force Un, as it is known – a Soviet-made Ilyushin Il-62M jet – but on an Air China Boeing 747 sometimes used to transport Chinese leaders.

    Kim’s flight path meanwhile appeared to maximise time spent in Chinese airspace during the journey, including veering off to pass over the southernmost province Hainan Island, according to Flight Radar 24, a Swedish website providing real-time data.

    A source told the South China Morning Post earlier that China could send fighter jets to escort Kim on the journey through its airspace.

    Although there are geopolitical and security interests at stake for China in the negotiations, Beijing has refrained from direct involvement in the summit between Trump and Kim.

    China has repeatedly said that the root of the nuclear crisis needs to be dealt with by Pyongyang and Washington and that a summit between the two sides could be a “key step” to resolving the situation.

    “Beijing knows that it has limited influence over both the US and North Korea when it comes to denuclearisation,” said Zhao Tong, a North Korea specialist at the Carnegie-Tsinghua Centre in Beijing.

    “So at the moment, the wisest approach for China is to just leave North Korea and the US to it.”

    But Chinese analysts agreed that Beijing could and would play a larger role following the summit between Kim and Trump, who – given their divergent views on denuclearisation – are expected to make some “symbolic deals” when they meet.

    Those deals could include an agreement to keep talking, with a commitment to work towards a final goal of dismantling all nuclear weapons on the Korean peninsula, and an announcement to end hostility.

    Cheng said that as Pyongyang’s largest trading partner and closest ally, Beijing was in the best position to ensure the safety of the North Korean regime – Kim’s top priority and a precondition for his denuclearisation pledge.

    He added that Beijing and Washington were expected to work together more on the denuclearisation process following Tuesday’s summit.

    US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has said he will travel to Beijing and Seoul this week to brief senior officials, including from Japan, on the outcome of the summit.

    Lu Chao, a Korean affairs specialist at the Liaoning Academy of Social Sciences, also said Beijing had a role to play in the process in the future.

    “China will help both sides to meet their promises – it will be a guarantor and a mediator to ensure that any deals that are made at the summit are well implemented,” Lu said.

    Republican senator and member of the Senate Armed Services Committee said the U.S. has only two options with North Korea, “peace or war.”

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    “If that’s the case, Beijing will have a role to play on how to implement the deals,” said Cheng Xiaohe, an associate professor of international relations at Renmin University in Beijing. “That includes inspecting the North Korean nuclear shutdown, as well as a role in the economic development Kim is seeking for his country.”
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    there should be no need to dignify this question with an actual response.
    Especially at this time of the morning. LOL
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    pretty much. to take it one step further its not about the white house if this is spun successfully. This means that the blue wave they hope for will not happen in november leaving them in the wilderness again.

    Politically speaking if Republicans can hold the house they will certainly make gains in the senate (almost guaranteed) so Trump can say he is one of the few presidents whose party gained power in the midterms.

    To put it in terms more familiar with our colonies it would be like if churchhill managed to retain British dominance after world war 2 instead of handing everything over to the US.
    Like a good scorpion there is always a sting in the tail!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    What Democrats have been "churlish"?

    Please be specific.
    Oh please, give me a break!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Like a good scorpion there is always a sting in the tail!
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    What a let down. No substantive progress. Same language as the 2005 agreement to 'de-nuclearzation'.

    Maybe because of the personal rapport between the two, something might happen?

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