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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    I defend freedom of speech even if the speech makes me cringe all the way to my very soul. About the only speech I won't defend would be advocacy by pedos and rapists and other heinous victimizers.
    I don’t believe people should be jailed by the government for their expression, but I personally do not support speech that is racists, homophobic, etc. You will lose my friendship, my support and my money if you do so. You are free to speak, but there can be consequences for that speech, like on this forum, I put you on ignore. I won’t be bothered cluttering my mind with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    I don’t believe people should be jailed by the government for their expression, but I personally do not support speech that is racists, homophobic, etc. You will lose my friendship, my support and my money if you do so.
    I like this, and feel the same way. I think the problem comes in when entities become the authority in judging what hate speech is. If tech companies become large enough to monopolize how the country perceives the political landscape, then they should not be allowed to assert what hate speech is AND be allowed to silence it. You and I should be free to decide for ourselves, and we can navigate around what we don't like, just like you use the ignore feature.
    The Truth Does Not Need To Be Supported With Censorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    It sounds like your perception of hate speech is the traditional context. Are you also able to conceive the weaponized political context that exploits this traditional one?
    My view is that the so-called 'Hate Speech' is a political device instituted by the PC Fascists to LIMIT free speech. I have NO PROBLEM with people hating each other and expressing it.
    I didn't read your link so may not understand your term 'weaponized'. The terms 'Racist', 'Bigot', 'Anti-Semite' are so over used they become meaningless words.

    Fentoine lum has coined a word I like "Partisanshitheads". It expresses the Red Team/Blue Team mentality that is prevalent here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    I don’t believe people should be jailed by the government for their expression, but I personally do not support speech that is racists, homophobic, etc. You will lose my friendship, my support and my money if you do so. You are free to speak, but there can be consequences for that speech, like on this forum, I put you on ignore. I won’t be bothered cluttering my mind with it.
    Not sure putting people on ignore is wise for a moderator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Not sure putting people on ignore is wise for a moderator.
    It works well for me. Rules violations are most always reported and I take people off of ignore to view offensive posts. I will also do do for heated dialogues or touchy topics. The owner allows it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    It works well for me. Rules violations are most always reported and I take people off of ignore to view offensive posts. I will also do do for heated dialogues or touchy topics. The owner allows it.
    You pawn of the ruling class. Rise up and throw your shoes into the machines!!!!

    Can we put moderators on ignore? Asking for a friend



    I tolerate people on both sides and I have a healthy ignore list represented by both sides. I am willing to engage even people I dislike as long as they contribute at least a little effort other than flaming/trolling all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    You pawn of the ruling class. Rise up and throw your shoes into the machines!!!!

    Can we put moderators on ignore? Asking for a friend



    I tolerate people on both sides and I have a healthy ignore list represented by both sides. I am willing to engage even people I dislike as long as they contribute at least a little effort other than flaming/trolling all the time.
    tell your friend:
    No, I truly wish you could, but the way the program is written, it doesn’t allow it.

    Before I was made a moderator I wanted to put Grind on ignore and couldn’t. It didn’t make me happy. I know there are people who wish they could ignore me, I truly wish they could as well.

    I engage people I don’t like as well, but I don’t tolerate obvious racists. Then there are a few who when I converse with them it only ends up in back and forth personal banter the clogs the threads, it’s better not to see what they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    tell your friend:
    No, I truly wish you could, but the way the program is written, it doesn’t allow it.

    Before I was made a moderator I wanted to put Grind on ignore and couldn’t. It didn’t make me happy. I know there are people who wish they could ignore me, I truly wish they could as well.

    I engage people I don’t like as well, but I don’t tolerate obvious racists. Then there are a few who when I converse with them it only ends up in back and forth personal banter the clogs the threads, it’s better not to see what they say.
    I never know who grind is. He changes his name more often than he does the water in his bong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    I never know who grind is. He changes his name more often than he does the water in his bong.
    Moderators names are in red. Billy comes from Detroit, that’s the way you can identify him. Damoclese is always Damoclese and I am Phantasmal formerly known as Rana. Grind is the moderator not from Detroit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    I've been reading up on hate speech, the hate speech index, and the ADL. Just curious what hate speech means to members here. To me, the term "hate speech" sounds like a euphemism for opposing ideology, but I would be interested in hearing what others think of the term "hate speech". What does it mean to you?

    It means someone who doesn't have the Stones to speak their minds Face to Face with the Individual they Hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    I never know who grind is. He changes his name more often than he does the water in his bong.
    and yet my stonerism remains legendary apparently.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Grind is basically right
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    Grind’s got you beat by miles. He is very intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Grind is the moderator not from Detroit.
    that's the best description I get? lame.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Grind is basically right
    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Grind’s got you beat by miles. He is very intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irthriuth View Post
    and yet my stonerism remains legendary apparently.
    Well you are the one who did post about being higher than they had ever been before just a few weeks ago. Legends are mythical. Your stonerism is just reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irthriuth View Post
    that's the best description I get? lame.
    It’s the best way to look at a post to tell for those new to the forum.

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    Hate speech, surely, is an abusive attack on people not because of what they do or say but because of what they are and can't help?

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