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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    wages were flat /GDP was below 2% when Obama left . incorrect again
    You've gone full retard.... don't ever go full retard.
    It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    How can it be right that Germany has a 10% tariff (WTO) on cars but the US only 2%, that can't be right?
    Why would Germans (Porche, BMW, Mercedes) want to buy American cars you dolt?
    Noise is like Lush Windbag, he makes sense as long as you don't think about it.
    It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    per capita we do not in many cases. It's not that simple, though your reptilian brain can't follow the fact tarrifs are higher in some products by the EU and CA ( right in the oP chowderbrain)
    No you lying cunt
    The US is far and away the largest consumer market in the world.

    We will always have trade imbalance.
    Nothing can change that.
    It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    No you lying cunt
    The US is far and away the largest consumer market in the world.

    We will always have trade imbalance.
    Nothing can change that.
    We have learned through our socialization to focus upon shiney objects and pathological materialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    Why would Germans (Porche, BMW, Mercedes) want to buy American cars you dolt?
    Noise is like Lush Windbag, he makes sense as long as you don't think about it.
    equalize the tariffs and find out.
    Currently European autos have a higher safety standards, and US makes too many SUV's for their market.

    But if you lower the tariffs, and possible design changes for the German market -who knows what can happen?
    Stop looking at this as a static situation -economies are subject to dynamics.
    But it won't improve with the tariffs differential. ( and Germany needs to up their NATO contributions as well)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    No you lying cunt
    The US is far and away the largest consumer market in the world.

    We will always have trade imbalance.
    Nothing can change that.
    China is moving up there -besides we don't have to run equal trade -we do need to lower the inbalances

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    European reaction is filtering out. Trudeau thinks Trumps unacceptable actions will hurt his own citizens. That is where he thinks change can come. others see the US administration as disorganized and undisciplined. Some think they have to go on without the US. this is not good.

    Can you imagine their reaction at trump saying they have knowing smiles when he tells them they have taken advantage of the US? Trump makes shit up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Why do you even give the twat the time of day?
    He enjoys "diversity of thought", I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    European reaction is filtering out. Trudeau thinks Trumps unacceptable actions will hurt his own citizens. That is where he thinks change can come. others see the US administration as disorganized and undisciplined. Some think they have to go on without the US. this is not good.

    Can you imagine their reaction at trump saying they have knowing smiles when he tells them they have taken advantage of the US? Trump makes shit up.
    did you expect them to embrace lowering their tariffs? This is hardball-it has to play out. in the meantime:
    "nothing ventured -nothing gained" is the mantra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    European reaction is filtering out. Trudeau thinks Trumps unacceptable actions will hurt his own citizens. That is where he thinks change can come. others see the US administration as disorganized and undisciplined. Some think they have to go on without the US. this is not good.

    Can you imagine their reaction at trump saying they have knowing smiles when he tells them they have taken advantage of the US? Trump makes shit up.
    The rest of the world certainly should move on without the US. The economic system of the US is predicated upon endless war and the corporate state is now the US government; not the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    so waht do you want?
    8 more years of ignoring the problem,like Obama( and predecessors) on trade and North Korea?
    That produced the best economy in history?

    Yes, absolutely, give me more of that.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    did you expect them to embrace lowering their tariffs? This is hardball-it has to play out. in the meantime:
    "nothing ventured -nothing gained" is the mantra.
    They are laughing at trump. Except he may create serious problems. The other nations, the soon to be G6, know what they are doing. Trump thinks he can bully them. We have over 12,500 tariffs. None of what trump says makes any sense. He traffics in sophistry, not fact. His uneducated followers trail behind.

    Trump will force the manufacturers to make things in America. yeah right. He can start with his and Ivankas overpriced crap. Nearly all made in China or 3rd word countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    They are laughing at trump. Except he may create serious problems. The other nations, the soon to be G6, know what they are doing. Trump thinks he can bully them. We have over 12,500 tariffs. None of what trump says makes any sense. He traffics in sophistry, not fact. His uneducated followers trail behind.

    Trump will force the manufacturers to make things in America. yeah right. He can start with his and Ivankas overpriced crap. Nearly all made in China or 3rd word countries.
    So globalization and multi-national trade deals are good now and help the working man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    So globalization and multi-national trade deals are good now and help the working man?
    Who gives a fuck about the working class?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    That produced the best economy in history?

    Yes, absolutely, give me more of that.
    far from the best economy in history under Obama. However I do not see any need to get all partisan about
    "this is Obama's economy" -or "this is Trumps' economy" -it's a continuum is it not?

    I give Obama credit for using the stimulus when many were calling for austerity.
    It added debt ( lots under Obama,and not just the stimulus) but the Keynesian principle of QE
    did help keep the economy from going into a full recession.

    The Trump comes in and works on what Obama was lacking; GDP ( reducing trade deficits also increases GDP)
    coupled with deregulation and tax reform

    It seems to me they both get credit for their respective roles

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